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KUIPORNG 03-23-2007 09:04 AM

Be honest, do you really do three coats on everything?
 
After going thourgh thousands of seam/corners mudding... I am going to do painting tomorrow....

I have a question in mind.... Do professional or most people really do 3 coats? I myself, do 3 coats on most of the stuff, but some of them I know are only 2 coats.... why? one, for those 2 coats stuff, they are normally hard to reach places or not so obvious places ... or some of them looks pretty good already after 2 coats... and some even hard to tell where it is only 2 coats or already 3 coats... so after so many stuff... I just coat all obvious places 3 coats, and leave some 2 coats in odd places or I am not sure places....


Is this somthing like that in contractor world also?.... just curious... I have to admit, I myself is not a "perfect seeking" person...

AtlanticWBConst. 03-23-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KUI****G (Post 38054)
After going thourgh thousands of seam/corners mudding... I am going to do painting tomorrow....

I have a question in mind.... Do professional or most people really do 3 coats? I myself, do 3 coats on most of the stuff, but some of them I know are only 2 coats.... why? one, for those 2 coats stuff, they are normally hard to reach places or not so obvious places ... or some of them looks pretty good already after 2 coats... and some even hard to tell where it is only 2 coats or already 3 coats... so after so many stuff... I just coat all obvious places 3 coats, and leave some 2 coats in odd places or I am not sure places....


Is this somthing like that in contractor world also?.... just curious... I have to admit, I myself is not a "perfect seeking" person...


K,

We absolutely, positively, always do a minimum of 3 coats.

Sometimes on difficult patches (closing off a doorway, etc...) we may do a 4th or even a 5th to make the seams blend in properly.
Example:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...T/IMG_0971.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...T/IMG_0979.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...T/IMG_0983.jpg

When we are done with the final coats and sand a wall, it looks like this:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...T/IMG_0868.jpg

KUIPORNG 03-23-2007 10:45 AM

The pictures you show are those I call obvious places... What I call unobvious is those soffet corners or window corners, especially inside corners.... which is a pain to coat... for seams, third coat is particular easy to apply with a straight head wipe through.... but for inside corner, it is a pain... and there are so many of them....



anyhow... up to now... unlike what the book's author said: "Mudding is the most enjoyable part, a break from hanging drywall"... my feeling is "Mudding is the most painful part, can make you have bad dreams for the rest of your life"....

yummy mummy 03-23-2007 11:58 AM

kuiporng
 
You have a great sense of humour. :laughing:

For me, right now, hanging drywall seems to be a big pain in the :censored: .

Brik 03-23-2007 04:01 PM

Yep, been there. I have done plenty as a DIYer. We all chatted here about DIY drywall and hiring it out. I have done it sucessfully in the past but decided to hire out my basement recently. The pros did 3 coats in all areas. One seam I wish they had done a 4th to taper out further. Paint is up now and I think I am going to do that 4th coat over the paint and re-paint that section. I will be busy this weekend. Carpet is coming on Monday AM!!!! YEA. I want to be completely finished, all paint and punch list items done, before the carpet arrives. I'll post some pictures after the carpet goes in.

KUIPORNG 03-26-2007 08:18 AM

Just a bit curious... I also did painting last weekend... but if you hired pro did your basement, you should have done painting, may be a month ago or so.... consider I am also only a weekend warrier...

Brik 03-26-2007 08:34 AM

Yea, I only hired out the drywall. Everything else I did myself. I finished painting touch ups and a few other things this past weekend. I am also having the carpet professionally installed. They should be here any minute.

yummy mummy 03-26-2007 10:00 AM

brik and kuiporng
 
I have 2 guys that are willing to hang the drywall for me for free (retired contractor, friend of the family) (because I think they feel sorry for me.)

But I said, after I have put in all this time and work doing all the hard work ie. framing, etc, myself, there is no way in :censored: that someone else is going to take the credit for finishing my basement. :laughing:

So, here I am six months later, still not finished framing. :laughing:

KUIPORNG 03-26-2007 10:04 AM

You must be kidding me... reject such "once in a lifetime offer"....

you can at least accept the help and be part of it....

yummy mummy 03-26-2007 10:04 AM

My husband said the same thing, but no way.

Brik 03-26-2007 10:12 AM

Nothing wrong with having them help you. You help them out when they need it. Get your husband to help too. Provide beverages, lunch, music etc. No way would I turn somone loose if I wasn't paying them and watch from the sidelines.

yummy mummy 03-26-2007 10:19 AM

brik
 
My husband will help me with lifting the drywall, but everything else I will do myself.

These guys are willing to finish it for me, but still no way.

joasis 03-26-2007 11:05 AM

To make the work look professional, and it is easily a DIY project, 3 coats is a minimum...the bigest mistake I see DIY'ers do in drywall taping and bedding is the mud...they buy the bucket or box, ready to go, and never learn to "thin" it down a little...sometimes very little, and this can make all the difference in the world.

Now pro mud guys may disagree, but we fill the tray with compound, and "cut" a little bit of water in....get the consistancy you want...and go to work...lots smoother, and more workable.

A last thing about good work...don't lay it on heavy...every time you blade a joint, pretend you don't know what sanding is, and you are doing it for keeps.......never place the compound and think to yourself you will just sand down the highspots...all you are doing is making more work for yourself. Matter of fact, we rarely ever sand, unless we are doing a patch.

yummy mummy 03-26-2007 01:50 PM

I like your suggestion on thinking that there is no such a thing as sanding.

AtlanticWBConst. 03-26-2007 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joasis (Post 38356)
To make the work look professional, and it is easily a DIY project, 3 coats is a minimum...the bigest mistake I see DIY'ers do in drywall taping and bedding is the mud...they buy the bucket or box, ready to go, and never learn to "thin" it down a little...sometimes very little, and this can make all the difference in the world.

Now pro mud guys may disagree, but we fill the tray with compound, and "cut" a little bit of water in....get the consistancy you want...and go to work...lots smoother, and more workable.

A last thing about good work...don't lay it on heavy...every time you blade a joint, pretend you don't know what sanding is, and you are doing it for keeps.......never place the compound and think to yourself you will just sand down the highspots...all you are doing is making more work for yourself. Matter of fact, we rarely ever sand, unless we are doing a patch.

All very true points, especially about thinning the compound by mixing water into it.
Also, the point about sanding...I know that's what we do, try to get it so smooth that there is as little sanding as possible...because no one likes sanding...ugh


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