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Old 01-13-2011, 03:06 PM   #31
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I have installed kitchen cabinets on pergo flooring before and the last time I did it was 4 years ago and I havenít heard a peep. But if you like you can set the cabinets on the plywood floor and butt the pergo floor to it and then add the toe kick.

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My concern with doing that is sliding the dishwasher in and out. If I have that increased height to deal with from the pergo it could pose problems.
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The cabinets from Ikea don't come with bases, Ikea has the funky legs, leveling pads and then clipon covers.

This could be an advantage, as you could build your own base allowing for floor variations and levelness.
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My concern with doing that is sliding the dishwasher in and out. If I have that increased height to deal with from the pergo it could pose problems.
Just add a piece of plywood to the area under the DW to make it level with the finished floor.
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If youíre going to redo the entire floor and all the cabinets sit on the pergo floor then the height for the dishwasher would still slide under the cabinet. If you decide to just leave the dishwasher area with no floor you will still be good to install the dishwasher but when sliding it out you will have a lip from the floor to deal with. Just make sure your dishwasher opening and height are for your dishwasher.
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The cabinets from Ikea don't come with bases, Ikea has the funky legs, leveling pads and then clipon covers.

This could be an advantage, as you could build your own base allowing for floor variations and levelness.
forgot about that...
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Forget about what? I thought the cabinets were well made, easy to assemble and very cost efficient.

I chose not to use the legs and made my own base, this allowed me to level the cabinets on a floor that was more than an inch out of level across 16.5', I put a relief cut on the front of the base to allow the hardwood flooring room for expansion.
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No, no what I meant was that I forgot that they came with legs and they can be removed to make your own base.
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Hi! what if you did a corner lazy susan in the corner by where the stove currently is, then put the fridge there....then on the wall where the fridge is currently, you can put the stove with a hood or a shelve above it for the microwave, and do cabinets on the sides?
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My concern with doing that is sliding the dishwasher in and out. If I have that increased height to deal with from the pergo it could pose problems.
There's enough adjustment in the legs of the dishwaser for 1/2" flooring. If you want to be sure, put 1/2" ply under the cabinets to compensate for the flooring.
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Pete, the kitchen/pantry dining room layout looks and sounds like a traditional setup dating back to the times where rich folks had cooks and wait staff. Is this an old house?

The layout with the stove in its original position and corner cabinet sounds promising. You say that the current layout works well. If you now have no kids or young kids, that layout may not work as well as you add kids or as they get older. Is that outer door a major egress or is it infrequently used? It just looks like the more traffic in and out of that door, the less functional your current setup may become.

One other small thing that may open up the kitchen a little more is if you can recess your refrigerator back into the pantry space so it is even with the rest of the cabinetry. Especially if you stick with 12" as your maximum depth.
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Maybe I posed the question in the wrong way, let me retry:

We are still undecided on what exactly our "dream" countertop is going to be, so because this is not a huge house and we'd like to do the kitchen sooner rather than later, the countertop is going to be butcher block or something like it for the next couple of years. If we love it, we love it. If we don't then it will get replaced at some point. Let's say 2 years from now someone comes in and does a granite or quartz countertop - because of the "springiness" of the pergo w/ the foam underlay I just foresaw BAD news for a stone countertop - does that make sense? I thought plywood sounded like a much more stable base for the cabinets the stone is going to lie on.



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Pete, the kitchen/pantry dining room layout looks and sounds like a traditional setup dating back to the times where rich folks had cooks and wait staff. Is this an old house?

The layout with the stove in its original position and corner cabinet sounds promising. You say that the current layout works well. If you now have no kids or young kids, that layout may not work as well as you add kids or as they get older. Is that outer door a major egress or is it infrequently used? It just looks like the more traffic in and out of that door, the less functional your current setup may become.
Our house is from 1930. I'ts a small Cape Cod and before the addition (1950's) it would have been a 2 bedroom 1 bath house, so I'm not sure where the staff would have lived - it's possible I suppose.

That entrance in the kitchen is driving us pretty nuts.... My wife and I both hate tracking stuff into the kitchen in the winter. I built a deck off the back of the house last summer and the first project when the snow melts is going to be cutting a hole in the wall in the large closet in the den and turning it into a mudroom. That door will be the primary point of entry into the house for anyone who lives there so that door in the kitchen will hopefully become an ornament.
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That entrance in the kitchen is driving us pretty nuts.... My wife and I both hate tracking stuff into the kitchen in the winter. I built a deck off the back of the house last summer and the first project when the snow melts is going to be cutting a hole in the wall in the large closet in the den and turning it into a mudroom. That door will be the primary point of entry into the house for anyone who lives there so that door in the kitchen will hopefully become an ornament.
In that case, I would do the door/mudroom project first. Have a means of egress, then seal up the door in the kitchen and and use that space against the wall as kitchen area.
You will save money in the long run and be a lot more satisfied with the end product.

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