Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Remodeling

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-05-2012, 05:05 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 7
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Hanging basement ceiling


I have a couple questions before starting to board my basement. My basement is framed however ceiling is just joists. Do i need to run strapping before hanging board ? As there is just a gap between all exterior walls and joist.

Pubby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 05:09 PM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 27,506
Rewards Points: 4,128
Default

Hanging basement ceiling


Post a picture of this gap.
Are the walls already done?
The reason I ask is the ceiling was suppost to go in first.
You are going to rent a drywall lift right?

joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 05:12 PM   #3
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 7
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Hanging basement ceiling


Framing of walls no drywall though. Ceiling is just all joists no strapping.
Pubby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 05:27 PM   #4
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 7
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Hanging basement ceiling


Example...exterior wall then a foot gap to first joist. So nowhere to screw drywall to against wall. If you understand what i mean.
Pubby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2012, 09:28 PM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: S.E. Minn
Posts: 35
Rewards Points: 25
Default

Hanging basement ceiling


No need for strapping just install some backing to the top of the top plate so that you can screw the drywall to it, or you could use drywall clips.
kj6887 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2012, 07:59 AM   #6
Lic. Builder/GC/Remodeler
 
AtlanticWBConst.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 7,556
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Hanging basement ceiling


I suggest you install the strapping and run it long under the open space on that exterior joist bay. That additional length of strapping can serve as a nailing point for your new exterior basement wall, should you need it.
It would be very difficult to get up into the outside rim joist bay to install nailers, as the previous poster suggested (Tho that concept will work on interior joist bays).

Realize that conventional lumber joists all have what is called a crown and can also vary slightly in actual width dimenions (as much as 3/8" +/-). Because of that, you will have some variations in the linearity of the overall runs under the joists (undersides not all completely at the same alignment/level).
Adding strapping will allow you to; run light fixture (and other) wiring without having to drill through every joist. It also allows for more level and even sheetrock attachment, and at the same time - it creates attachment points for any new basement walls that will be perpendicular to the overhead joists.
AtlanticWBConst. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2012, 08:11 AM   #7
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 7
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Hanging basement ceiling


Thank you very informative. All my wiring is already ran (bought house like this) and is drilled through joists. Does this make any difference ? So are you saying run strapping over whole ceiling perpendicular to joists? If so would it provide enough stability having that foot of strapping not attached to anything ? Or at that point should i run a piece from ceilig down to attach overlying strapping to?
Pubby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2012, 08:14 AM   #8
Lic. Builder/GC/Remodeler
 
AtlanticWBConst.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 7,556
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Hanging basement ceiling


Quote:
Originally Posted by Pubby View Post
Thank you very informative. All my wiring is already ran (bought house like this) and is drilled through joists. Does this make any difference ? So are you saying run strapping over whole ceiling perpendicular to joists? If so would it provide enough stability having that foot of strapping not attached to anything ? Or at that point should i run a piece from ceilig down to attach overlying strapping to?
It will be perfectly stable for an exterior basement renovation wall. Trust me; after you do it, you will be able to put 4 guys against that wall (pushing and pulling) and it will not budge.
AtlanticWBConst. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2012, 11:56 PM   #9
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 9,967
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Hanging basement ceiling


As the wiring is already in (add canned fire-foam in the holes to localize any fire to that one joist cavity), I usually add lengths of metal "L" flashing at the joist line to screw the ceiling drywall to-- if past the maximum fastener spacing distance, Post # 6 and #10:

Gap B/ween Ceiling Corner Rafter and Top Plate -- Acceptable Or Not?

Of course, if the bathroom is small, strapping is easy....

Gary
__________________
If any ads are present in my answer above, I do not condone/support/use the product or services listed, they are there against my permission.
Gary in WA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2012, 03:44 PM   #10
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 7
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Hanging basement ceiling


here are a few pictures of what i am talking about. ps..the drywall was hung on that one wall when i bought house, and will be coming down and redone.
Attached Thumbnails
Hanging basement ceiling-photo.jpg   Hanging basement ceiling-photo-1-.jpg   Hanging basement ceiling-photo-2-.jpg  
Pubby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2012, 03:45 PM   #11
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 7
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Hanging basement ceiling


also, sorry for sideways pictures.
Pubby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2012, 04:01 PM   #12
DIY Enthusiast
 
sublime2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,107
Rewards Points: 500
Default

Hanging basement ceiling


Looking at the pics, your going to need nailers around the perimeter above the wall framing to secure the rock on the ceiling.
Don't see a need for strapping on the joist either.
When you go to hang the rock on the ceiling make a "T" out of some 2/4 lumber the height of the ceiling including the rock and use them to hold the rock up while you screw it in.
sublime2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2012, 11:33 PM   #13
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: B.C. Canada
Posts: 2,055
Rewards Points: 1,030
Default

Hanging basement ceiling


Nail up some backing 2x4 or metal L's
mae-ling is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2012, 12:43 AM   #14
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 9,967
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Hanging basement ceiling


Plug those wiring holes with canned foam. Install wood fire-blocks or other at drop floor elevation. Garbage the poly unless required by local AHJ; http://www.buildingscience.com/docum...study-analysis

http://www.buildingscience.com/docum...ts?full_view=1

Gary
__________________
If any ads are present in my answer above, I do not condone/support/use the product or services listed, they are there against my permission.
Gary in WA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2013, 12:23 PM   #15
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 7
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Hanging basement ceiling


Could someone possibly post a picture of what you mean ?

Pubby is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Commercial Electric Pot Lights in Insulated Basement Ceiling balithecat Electrical 4 03-14-2011 06:46 PM
How to lower basement ceiling salman_z8 Building & Construction 9 03-02-2011 11:26 AM
How to Lower Basement Bathroom Ceiling JDC4NU Building & Construction 3 03-01-2011 12:19 AM
HELP! Ceramic tiled ceiling in basement bathroom.... jrutherford Remodeling 1 10-11-2010 01:27 PM
Drywalling my basement ceiling luweee Remodeling 5 03-24-2009 07:58 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.