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Old 09-21-2008, 03:35 PM   #76
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Thanks Seattle Home Addict. It's always good to hear from somebody who had it done and is pleased. My cabinets are not in good shape and I was thinking of having them refaced by GT. Guess my next step is to get a price from GT to transform my kitchen cabinets and countertops, get the same quote from a company to replace the cabinets and install silestone, then I guess I can make the best "informed" decision possible. Thanks to everybody for their help.

If anybody has had GT reface their cabinets, I'd appreciate knowing how that turned out too.

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Old 09-22-2008, 09:44 AM   #77
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Gosh I can't imagine what that would look like either (UGLY!).

No, by cabinet refacing I mean, new doors, new drawers, and then a veneer that they heat-set over the rest of the exposed wood. Supposedly, it's cheaper than replacing the cabinets. Our local GT does do that. However, I have a concern with the "refacing", because the cabinets will still be old and ugly on the inside (shelves, etc). Plus I wonder how long the veneer will stick. Part of my cabinets have the entire back exposed (over a countertop). I have 31 yr old cabinets that are 1/2" thick plywood that were built when the house was built. They were not prefab. They are all solid wood, but still after 30+ years they are outdated and ugly. I've thought about painting them, but I've also seen some that were painted professionally and they still aren't "pretty". You can see just about ever mark in them. I was just wondering if anybody had their cabinets "refaced" by GT and how they've held up.

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Old 09-22-2008, 12:54 PM   #78
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I understand about moving it, but my original question was "has anybody used GT for cabinet refacing?" Since this is a GT thread, I thought that was appropriate. I was just interested in the quality of work they do on the refacing. Thanks for all the great help. I really appreciate it.
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Old 09-22-2008, 02:50 PM   #79
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I recently sold my Granite Transformations Franchise (Health Reasons) so I would be happy to answer any questions people have. You will hear the real inside deal from someone who knows the products good qualities, and bad qualities. I have no reason to sugar coat things with GT. You will hear the good and the bad from me!!!!

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Cabinet refacing is new to GT. If your location has an experienced finish carpenter, like I had, you will be fine. I would also get 2 other refacing quotes, and check out Angies's List etc. for names.

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Showers are a great application for GT. Almost better than counters!!
We told people to let the shower dry for 48 hours with no problems. Mold can't grow because no air, or water can get behind it. The epoxy that is used is waterproof, (they even make underwater saltwater coral reefs for famous aquariums out of the epoxy) and will fill the air gap between the tile and the granite. Your entire existing shower wall will be coated with a thick layer of peanut butter consistency epoxy. So no way will water or mold get back there. When it is installed, just make sure they coat the surface with epoxy throughly as they are trained to do. Also you can install a shower door over this product.

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Cultured marble sinks "could" be cut out. However, this would be messy and dusty. We always just removed it and put down a new substrate.

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Undermount sinks will look different than slab. They are water tight if done right. However, the look is a bit different for some folks.

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Of course every job does not go perfectly. Ask for the best installer, and look at his customer review letters. Blank review forms are left behind on every job so you should see many letters.

Hope this helps. Anyone with any questions let me know. I really like helping people out with there Home Improvement Plans

P.S. The warranty is ok. Better than nothing which is what you usually get with Granite. Just read it over (twice) and go from there. We always went out for free on service calls. We even caulked a kitchen every year for 4 years!! Customer was a bit "challenging", our caulk job was fine she just wanted it freshened up!!

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Old 09-23-2008, 11:41 AM   #80
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I'm new to this and the information that I have read so far is great. My wife and I just bought our home last year in Maryland and we love the kitchen but it has the builder grade laminate counter tops which are ok, but we would really like granite to go with our new stainless steel appliances. Like most of you we saw GT on HGTV. We have a dealer in the area and have set up a time for him to come out and show us the product, we have not as of yet been to a showroom. But we will definitely do that since many of you have suggested that.
Since there is some much information here, I have a ton a questions written down that will help me interview the GT rep when he comes out.

Thank you, will keep everyone posted.
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:28 PM   #81
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Today my wife and I went to the showroom and if all you see are the samples on the website. I can say first hand they do the product no justice. Some of the same colors my wife did not like looking on the website, when she saw it in the showroom she loved them.
This weekend GT will be showcasing at the Dulles expo center for the "Home Show" so if you live in the DC area it would be a great place to go and check out there full showcase.

We have set up the free in home estimate visit, will keep everyone posted on what they quote per sq ft.
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:15 PM   #82
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We just had granite transformations install countertops and sink in our kitchen. We originally had a laminite that was pretty and only 4 years old but we wanted to get something for long term and we wanted to decide before we put up our backsplash. I originally only had 2 seam behind my stove with granite transformation I had to have 3 incremental seams and I was very worried and made sure I voiced this and asked for the best installers. The installation and the product is great, the seams were better than I ever hoped. I like the Blonco granite sink but make sure that the plumber installs your faucet correctly... he left and later I found the faucet did not cover the hole and the sink is so deep you need a special tool to get to it. The installer (not the plumber) did come back to fix it,,, but made it worse. (we went and bought the tool, cheaper than another day off).. Supply your own drain and strainer... the one I recvd was probably $2 and you cannot go to the local store and buy a better one or use my old one, because they don't fit. It is either in or out. Does not allow water to drain without taking it out of the sink. I think GT is more expensive than granite (but I liked the product) and I felt they could afford to put in better quailty drain. I don't think I should have to replace but even if I did I don't want to mess up the sink and be blamed. Who knew that something so common is a big deal..just ask or supply your own. My company in Jacksonville, FL.
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Old 09-28-2008, 04:13 PM   #83
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To Johnny Larue or others who can explain discrepancy in quotes. I've read many of the posts and am surprised at the variance of costs. It seems some rcv'd a quote for around $46 sq ft, while others were much higher. We rcv'd a quote for $80 per sq ft -- no special cuts, no special corners, no sink, etc. Just straight countertops. Is there a reason that the cost varies so widely?
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Old 09-30-2008, 06:04 PM   #84
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Gosh, I've been out of town a few days and what a great surprise to see these wonderful answers. You've been a really big help to me. I haven't had them out for an estimate yet, but a friend of mine had them come out and estimate her bathroom shower--$7,000--seemed really expensive to me. We both have large showers that are bathtub sized (and ceiling, and 3 walls solid tile). But, when you consider there would be no tile grout, no waxing to keep it from watermarking, etc, I guess it does make sense. Another friend had them out and they wanted $13,000 to reface her cabinets. Replacing them through Lowe's using Shenandoah cabinets (Maple) is only $3,000 and that's removing everything and starting with new cabinets. I just got back from Lowes today and saw their cabinets--and quartz countertops (LG Viatera)--total to remove my cabinets, install premium cabinets and the counter top is $7,000 (roughly). That sounds almost too good to pass up. A whole new kitchen vs. a shower "lining" seems like a no-brainer.

In fairness, I will have GT come out and estimate for me. I will follow all of your recommendations--read everything, get review letters for the installer, etc. I'm not in a hurry, so there is plenty of time for me to wait for the best person.

Again, THANK YOU!!!!
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Old 09-30-2008, 07:38 PM   #85
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Today my wife and I had our in home estimate done. Our total square footage came out to almost 40 sqft. Before the GT salesman who also happens to own the business gave us the final figures. I asked him is there a standard price per square foot, he stated no and that the price per square foot differs from one kitchen to the next. Immediately what came to mind is all of the concerns that my fellow bloggers have had about the variance in price per square foot.
So finally he completes his paperwork and lays out the final numbers. This quote included the mosiac backsplash, undermount sink,faucet and plumbing. For the euro edge it came to $5499 or $137.50 per sqft and for the bevel edge it came to $6174 or $154.35 per sqft.

My wife and I felt that,that price per sqft was really high and we also felt that since there is no standardized pricing per sqft it leaves you open to being taken advantage of because you don't know if your getting a fair deal or not. Just based on the pricing differences in this blog alone I felt like I was really taken for a ride. Even if we took out the sink,faucet and plumbing the price is still not that much of a difference.
Granted there product is beautiful but at that cost, we immediately thought hey we could get 100% granite and a decente grade of granite for less. Granted yes there are different grades of granite but I feel if we shop around we could find a good deal. We have even decided to go to granite distributors in our area and see if we can get a deal on large remnants they have left over and get a price on getting that installed. That was also something we saw on HGTV.

To all of you looking at GT I hope that you get a better offer than we did, I still feel that it is a great product but not for the price I was quoted.

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Gosh Andre M that's seems like a huge price. I can get my cabinets replaced and the quartz countertop in for nearly that price. I too have approximately 40 sq ft of countertop. I'll keep everybody posted on what I find out--but at $13,000 to reface the cabinets, plus an additional $5,000 (probably) for the tops, I'd be inclined to get all new--even with the mess. I found out about a brother of a friend that does home building, but recently retired--he's willing to oversee my project (for a price, but a fair one) and let me know contractors, etc that will do my job. I think that's the best thing for me, but like I said, I'll have GT come out and give me a price and I'll let everybody know.
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Old 10-01-2008, 06:19 PM   #87
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After the shocking price we were quoted from GT the other day my wife and I went to a Granite showroom today. We gave them our measurements to see what kind of pricing we would be looking at. We looked at 2 products:
1. Silestone - which is made from Quartz mixed with a polymer
2. Granite
Both products were considered level B, The supplier is running a special on the granite.
They are offering:
Free sink - 6 to choose from
Your choice of edge for free - 11 to choose from
Your choice of faucet - 6 to choose from

Plus the granite comes with a lifetime stain warranty (IntelliGuard)

www.milanostones.com

looking at my measurements they stated I have 40.18 sqft. of counter space.
The price quote - This does not include demo and removal - which my wife and I will probably to ourselves.

SileStone @ $70 sqft level b grade = $2813

Granite @ $68 sqft level b grade = $2733

My wife and I thought that this is a much better deal for us and the price is budget friendly. We know that granite from time to time needs to be sealed, we found out that the IntelliGuard treatment prevents liquids from penetrating the stone and it has a lifetime guarantee.

So for us the Granite is the way we are going to go.

We are also looking at other Granite suppliers in the area, we would like to get at least 3 quotes before making a final decision.
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Gosh AndreM that sounds really good. I guess I should start looking at granite, particularly since you can now get the treated variety. My family and I are not the kind of people that keep things immaculate. Matter of fact, I leave the dishwashing liquid sitting on the back of the sink, instead of putting it in the cabinet, all the time. I was worried about the stains, particularly since I live in TX and have HARD water. But, with the stain resistance that granite now has, I guess I should look there. I'll keep everybody posted on how my "project" comes along. Plus my hairdresser and I are both working on the same projects, so we compare notes all the time. She's getting granite, from an individual granite person, not a company, for a really good deal--but I know it's not sealed. She'll have to keep it sealed. Her price is very good, but I'm still leaning towards the quartz countertops--particularly since I've read so many good things about them. I recently found out about a brother of an acquaintance who used to build houses that is willing, for a price, to assist me. I think that's the best way to go since I've heard so much about cabinets and installation nightmares from Home Depot and Lowes. At any rate, I'll keep you all posted. Thank you for all your info. This is the best thing I found!!!!
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Our house burnt down in December, 2007 and we are completely rebuilding. I need help picking out the color of our walls, tile, etc. I have already picked a brazillian cherry stain for our cabinets in the Kitchen and a galaxy black granite countertop. Please help me with your ideas and advice!!
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Thanks for posting Andre! We felt the quote we got was a bit high too, but have not checked out other products yet. With your posting, I feel more excited to go look and price. I asked the "GT guy" if there was any room for negotiation considering the information I had after looking on-line and he said "no, that is just the price". I took that to mean..."take it or leave it". I wondered... if they treat their potential customers questionable how would they treat a customer who already had a financial investment.

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