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Old 07-28-2008, 10:41 PM   #61
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Help. I bought a Marble countertop uncut, I want to cut it so I can mount a top mount bar sink. What is the best way to cut or do I need to call a professional? Also How do I or can I polish the edges of the countertop?

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Old 07-29-2008, 07:06 PM   #62
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Dang, I was hoping you had some documented source that I had not seen.

I've had my house appraised 2 times in the past year for a different reasons that I will not go into. Each appraiser (different companies) asked about the counter top since neither had seen it before. In both instances, the house appraisal amount was INCREASED for the STONE counter top. While we were talking aobut the product, I mentioned the lack of maintenance, increased resistance to germs, and lack of staining, each appraiser thought it sounded superior to "real" stone. So indeed it is a selling point.
Hmmm, let me get this straight. Two appraisers told you that a GT countertop that few people have ever heard of made from crushed granite and an epoxy adds more value to your house than natural granite that is the "in" product for countertops. yea, right! Give me a break.

Again, I believe that GT makes a good product. yes, there is no tear out, yes, there is not the need for periodic sealing (a once a year wipe down). BUT, it is expensive, is not as hard (will scratch easier), and does not really resemble the look of real granite. If that is the look you want, then go for it.
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:15 PM   #63
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Hmmm, let me get this straight. Two appraisers told you that a GT countertop that few people have ever heard of made from crushed granite and an epoxy adds more value to your house than natural granite that is the "in" product for countertops. yea, right! Give me a break.

Again, I believe that GT makes a good product. yes, there is no tear out, yes, there is not the need for periodic sealing (a once a year wipe down). BUT, it is expensive, is not as hard (will scratch easier), and does not really resemble the look of real granite. If that is the look you want, then go for it.
I agree with you. If this stuff were cheaper I would go for it, but I am just a regular house wife homeowner who would rather have the real thing if I am going to pay a high price for it.
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Old 08-17-2008, 04:13 PM   #64
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I have a few questions. I think that GT will be ideal for my 1911 Craftsman style duplex. I've been in the showroom in Seattle and we loved the look for both the rental and for our home.

A few questions if you don't mind.

GT_installerGuy:
1. Are you in Seattle? I hope, I hope. ;-)
2. Can you compare an constrast the 3 product lines I see on the main web site: Trend Stone, Trend Glass, and Trend Mosaic?
3. Someone mentioned exposed areas underneath. (But maybe that was in Miami.) In the showrook, I noticed that it it just bare wood. Is anything done to "finish" that look?


Andrea_Rose:
1. Which of the above products did you use or is it a mix in the different areas?
2. How large of an area did you use for the fireplace covering and what material did it cover up?
3. Did you get beveled edges on any of the countertops?

To people who want "the real thing" - you are welcome to the additional germs you will get with the porous material, the higher maintenance, and the radon gas which causes lung cancer in non-smokers. I am thankful that I do not have "the real thing" in my home or in my rental.

Thanks.
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Old 08-18-2008, 02:17 AM   #65
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I have the trend stone. In my kitchen, it went over formica countertops and ceramic tile on the backsplash. I covered over everything with Nero Stella and it looks just like the picture on the Granite Transformations webpage. My backsplash goes all the way to the upper cabinets. I also got the charcoal sink which is incredible and always looks great. http://www.granitetransformations.com/seattle/ We got squared off edges on all countertops. We already had an island in the kitchen with a granite top so we used black for the GT countertops to go with what we already had. The original granite is beveled, but I like the sharp edges much better...it's a cleaner more modern look.

Around my fireplace we covered 9" square tiles which had been chipping. We went around three sides and also placed it on the bottom (over the same type tiles) as a hearth. It looks gorgeous.

Lastly I did two bathrooms and they both look great. The technician in Seattle was Scott and he was fabulous. He refused to use anything less than perfect and exchanged the sheet twice so that he got a perfect match...and did it the same day. Good luck. Andrea
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:37 AM   #66
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We had them out three years ago to install countertops--beautiful. However, a corner cracked off a few weeks ago ( this is never supposed to happen), and when I called about the warranty to have it repaired, I have had nothing but problems. It will cost me $200 to have the repairs done, when in fact it was their product that was faulty. I took a day off work for the installation date and a man showed up to make a template, not do the work. They already had my measurements from the first installation. Now I will have to take another day off to have the section installed.
I was going to use them for my bathroom but now I will not even consider them.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:08 AM   #67
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Andrea_Rose, thanks so much for the reply. We say the charcoal sink in the showroom and thought it looked nice, but were unsure about how it would hold up.

Kper, that sounds like a really bad experience. Thank you for the warning. In my rental house there is an L counter that has an odd-shaped rounded end. When they came to measure (a year or more ago), they said they could not fit the round end, but could do an end with 45-degree angle parts to cover the rounded end. Was the end that broke off not over an existing countertop, as it might be in my situation?

It seems that there is a lot of variability in the quality of the franchise and particularly of the installations. It might be helpful if people say where they live.

Best wishes to all ~~ greenflash in Seattle.
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Old 08-20-2008, 03:32 PM   #68
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I also had some damage when my husband dropped a large bottle of olive oil on the edge. GT came right out and repaired it. the sheen is slightly different but absolutely no one has spotted it until i point it out. they would not accept any money even though i offered! this is the Seattle office.
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:43 PM   #69
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Dang, I was hoping you had some documented source that I had not seen.

I've had my house appraised 2 times in the past year for a different reasons that I will not go into. Each appraiser (different companies) asked about the counter top since neither had seen it before. In both instances, the house appraisal amount was INCREASED for the STONE counter top. While we were talking aobut the product, I mentioned the lack of maintenance, increased resistance to germs, and lack of staining, each appraiser thought it sounded superior to "real" stone. So indeed it is a selling point.

While perceived logic and an un-informed broker passing out un- substantiated information helps to form opinions, I choose to look at the facts from those in the field that can make or break a home sale by determining it's true market value.

No one has made mention of GT's Warranty. For the original buyer it's lifetime. And it is transferred to the next homeowner for 10 years if you sell (with no transfer cost).
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Thank you all for your info--it's quite informative. I have a few questions as we are considering this company for several things:

1. Has anybody used them for resurfacing their cabinets? And, if so, what has been your experience?

2. Has anybody used them for shower walls? We have a stall shower, which is tiled on 3 sides and the ceiling and the floor. I have a worry about putting something solid (we're considering the single surface granite, not the tile look-a-like) over a shower that is used at least twice a day. Is there any danger of sealing moisture behind the solid surface? I would think that if the shower had been used earlier in the day of installation it would still be damp when they apply the solid surface, thereby creating a huge mold problem behind the solid wall. What about installing a shower door? Currently the door is installed on the tile step down. Can a door be installed over this type of product?

3. Our bathroom countertops are currently the 30-year old engineered marble that has the sinks molded into it. It's all one-piece, sink and countertop. How would something like that be handled? Would they have to be pulled completely out and a solid surface installed before GT installation?

4. I want the undermount sink, but there appears to be a problem with it fitting correctly under the GT counter. It appears to sit lower and have quite a bit of calk between the top of the sink and the bottom on the countertop. Is that true? Or does it just look that way?

5. Is there anybody out there that is unhappy with the GT product?

Thank you all for all the great questions and answers. You're provided a wealth of info for me.

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Old 09-02-2008, 03:34 PM   #71
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I would like to make a few comments in regards to a few negative responses I have read so far. The situation is that people comment about something they know nothing about and they take cheap shots at the expense of businesses. These business make a living supporting families by selling products that only take a handful of uneducated people one second or one sentence to ruin. This isn't just in regards to this specific topic but in researching information on chat forums in general.

As far as Granite Trasnformations, here is what I know(this isn't to start an arguement, but to educate those looking for a REAL answer and not some other company trying to persuade customers in their direction as opposed to allowing the customer to make their own decision):

1) It is 95% REAL granite! 5% Polymer resin. It is REAL GRANITE!! It's permanently sealed. Granite slabs need to be sealed annually. Granite Transformations counters have absolutely NO upkeep other than regular cleaning as you would any countertop made with any material. It is constructed of the fabricaterd slabs prior to installation and they are brought in and installed in one day with no mess, no demolition, and no inconvenience to the lives of their customers.

2) It comes with a warranty! Slab granite is compressed NATURALLY! You cannot put a warranty on something that was made naturally. Nature is unpredictable and the highest grade granite slab may have little or no chance of damage but there is that percent they leave open because of the fact that it is NATURAL. That percentage is why slab granite companies do not offer warrantied products. Granite Transformations backs their materials with a warranty because they trust that they use a great product. NOTE: The warranty does cover countertops based on regular kitchen use. THIS PRODUCT IS NOT INDESTRUCTABLE!!!! You cannot swing a sledgehammer full force and expect it not to break. Just as well, you cannot spill Acetone nail polish remover and forget to clean it up and expect your countertops to be replaced! Again, they are NOT indestructable and this is not a "Super Product"! These counters will stand up to regular kitchen use. Whatever you got from your sales consultant is what you take from it. The company does provide care instructions to each customer on the day of installation. If you follow them, then your countertops will last for years and years and years!

3) Money, money money! There ARE cheaper grades of granite. Yes, there are slabs of granite that go for 20-something dollars a square foot. What they aren't telling you is that the grade of granite is horrible and the chances of your countertop being damaged are high. This isn't to say you SHOULD consider GT for your project. What I am saying is, in general, if you are already investing so much money in a product like granite, the difference between grades are only a few dollars per square foot. If you are investing a minimum of $1,500 for the project, why wouldn't you want to invest a couple more dollars a square foot to ensure a better quality and less risk of damage? Its not like you're buying toilet paper from the grocery store and want to save that extra 75 cents. Its a serious investment. Considering the fact that Kitchens and Baths are the highest selling point of any house, why would you rather save money than invest a few more dollars and get it right the first time? Whos to say that when you go to sell, the buyer doesn't recognize the cheap grade and that couple thousand dollar investment you cut corners on will end up losing money for you instead of helping the cause?

I guess what I am trying to say is that it is something customers should research themselves and see what is best for them. GT is a great company and offers a GREAT product. It may not be the best but it is still a great product. For anyone who could put down a company with no means to back it up should be ashamed. As far as prospective project starters, do yourself a favor, do the research yourself. Or better yet, go directly to BBB.org and search for companies registered through the Better Business Bureau. That is the best way to reassure yourself that you are getting the best quality and best service for the product you're researching.
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:43 PM   #72
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I agree 100% with what you say. I saw in the chats many people who were very happy and had GT--and a few who downed it saying "looks cheap" from the pictures on the internet. I went to the store WAS impressed. Now, I just have the above questions and hopefully somebody has had the work done that I'm considering doing OR is an installer for GT and can answer my questions.
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I bought a new ivory colored "granite sink" by Blanco and it stains if you look at it. Its not counter top but it is sthe same granite and polymer type of mix you described for your counter top. I realize it sounds like it should be more stain resistant that pure granite, but it is definitely not. I have a light granite counter tops and have had many for years and none of the stain like the sink. Sure, your tops may not be the same as Blanco's, but you may want to check out their stain resistance.
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Gosh thanks for that as I was considering one of those sinks too. Of course they are advertised as "stain resistant--even can dye your hair in the sink" but now I know differently. IF I opt for one of their sinks, it'll definitely be a dark one.
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I can totally relate to MsBnny's comments about GT vs. The Slab. First you have to determine what is best in your situation. How likely is it that you will stay in your house and use product? Is selling the house in the near future? What sort of value do the homes around you have?

My adventure began when I wanted to replace my 18 year old laminate. My home is the already over-improved for the area. The street is made up of 60's split level's with a 1910 thrown in. My house was built in 1990 and was already more valuable than the rest, so I had to take that into conideration. Between that and the fact that we plan to sell when the housing crisis is over, I could not justify slab granite.

The cabinets are white and not the highest quality. If I was going to stay in the house, the whole kitchen needs to be gutted and redesigned. Not going to that for someone else. GT was far less mess and cost than the granite I priced. Also, the granite companies I went to warned me that I would have to pay for new underlayment because of the necessity for granite to lay ABSOLUTLEY flat. There was also I wanted to keep a perfectly good tile backsplash that the 2" granite would partially cover. Then add on the trim work underneath to finish out the transition from counter to cabinet, the cost was making me dizzy!

Neighbors and relatives had good experiences with GT. I found the process to be almost painless. Yes, 2 days - one for the mearuring, one for the installation. They also do not reattach your plumbing, so plan on schduling a plumber if you are not handy in that area.

The result is that I have an updated look and a wonderful surface on which to work. Very clean easy to care for.

If you are planning on getting the most return on your home, unfortunately the reality is that home buyers make up their minds about something like the look of a kitchen in an instant when they tour your house. They are not thinking about mainentance or warantees. Are they going to percive GT as cheap? If they know anything about GT or Corian or anything that is not granite or quartz they might. Bu if your cabinets are not bad enough to warrant a replacement, you run the risk of going through the cost and hassle of installing granite and having that make your cabinets look shabby. So you must consider your future with the kitchen before deciding. And I stongly advise not to rule out GT just due to a perception.

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