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Old 01-15-2012, 07:14 PM   #16
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put back the ceiling grid, wrap wires tight at level. and hang drywall from ceiling grid, stuff insulation above as much as possible? but do not pack it in! it needs to be loose to absorb any sound
The original ceiling grid was held on by some railing on the perimeter and a couple of wires cemented to the roof and would probably weigh a total of 40lbs including the foam panels it had. Tossed it anyway.

From my estimation, it was far to weak to support as much drywall as I want.

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Mike, sounds like they did it all properly, permit, etc.

I suggest you get a permit also, Dennis. The new living space needs a lot of work: the concrete patio slab (no vapor barrier underneath, once enclosed the moisture will effect the instruments, furnishings, drywall, space) built walls on a probably 4" thick perimeter-edged slab, no insulation?, add new wiring?, heat/ventilation? all should be your concerns.

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There is a permit for the existing structure. I just want to improve the interior. I plan to put carpet in, but that's an entirely different subject.
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Old 01-15-2012, 07:18 PM   #18
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It would have to be a box inside a box to be totally soundproofed. They are better un renting space, than using a home in a residential area, due to sound travels, regardless what they do.
Yes, my original intention was to do a room-inside-a-room, but I think it might either be overkill OR be exactly what needs to happen after all.
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The original ceiling grid was held on by some railing on the perimeter and a couple of wires cemented to the roof and would probably weigh a total of 40lbs including the foam panels it had. Tossed it anyway.

From my estimation, it was far to weak to support as much drywall as I want.
It is done that way in certain constructions. There are quite a few places, that drywall is suspended by rails held with wires. Of course, the wire is heavier gauge, but it is done to stop sound from transmitting. Same with floating floors. There is a lot to learn, if you are going to use this space to do any kind of music practice in, that is a band.

The first thing is, if this was a porch just thrown together, you are going to have to start by pretty much tearing it down to the ground and starting back from the beginning. Just thinking that you are going to put in some electric, slap up some insulation and drywall, is not going to work.

Acoustic proper spaces start from the ground up, and are very involved, so that they do not allow sound to travel. http://www.wikihow.com/Build-a-Sound-Proof-Room
http://www.humbuckermusic.com/jul5th20buil.html
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The poster wants to use the room to house a band rehearsal---

Must be a well sound proofed structure---
That's right. Not that we will be cranking like crazy, but if need be I want to help neutralize those issues by building a proper structure considering soundproofing while I have the chance to do so.
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The walls aren't an issue. Building a new ceiling strong enough to support drywall is. Check out my drawing to see if putting railing on the 2x4s is enough to support such a heavy ceiling?
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The walls aren't an issue. Building a new ceiling strong enough to support drywall is. Check out my drawing to see if putting railing on the 2x4s is enough to support such a heavy ceiling?
It is not going to happen, until you tear down everything, especially if you are stating that it was framed like a kid's tree house, or a Chicken shed.
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If you have tray ceilings in your room, you can add picture frame moulding around the light fixture and install wallpapers and thanks for sharing about it. I learnt so many things here.

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