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KellyK 06-14-2012 03:23 PM

formica counter back splash
 
What is the best tool/s to cut the back splash w/o having to remove the counters? We're going green and having granite installed, over the formica. I've always hated the back splash!

Thanks for your time.
kelly

Concreteguy 06-14-2012 04:27 PM

I don't quite get it....hold on it just clicked...You have the manufacture formica tops that have the 4"(round a bout) rounded backsplash.

Cutting them flush with the counter. I have never had to do that, but I do understand. You basically need to cut right in the 90.

With tools I have on hand, I would try:

1: Drill a whole in the 90 with a 1/2" paddle bit, then take a jig saw down it. Would be a clean cut, but I would just want to make sure it was bellow the plan of the counters.Would want a long blade.
2. Score the formica, then take a stab at it with a fein multi tool.

Canarywood1 06-14-2012 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyK (Post 943430)
What is the best tool/s to cut the back splash w/o having to remove the counters? We're going green and having granite installed, over the formica. I've always hated the back splash!

Thanks for your time.
kelly



I'm not even going to ask why you want to install granite over the existing counter top's,but i'd remove the counters to take off the backsplash,to save yourself a lot of grief and aggrevation.

user1007 06-14-2012 08:10 PM

Some of those stone overlay products look promising but I have never dealt with them. I assume that is what you meant and you are not planning stone slab counters over the existing formica? Please post how your project turns out.

Make sure you put some wide masking tape on the formica surface before trying to cut it. It will help hold it. If there is any separation between it and the substrate it could otherwise get grabbed by whatever cutting tool. A little right angle saw might do the trick but my Fein or similar multi-tool would work eventually.

Seems like you might end up with a rather nasty gap to fill if you cut that coving flush with the countertop? I guess you can compensate with a filler and the new stone overlay? Just make sure the company measures for that difference.

KellyK 06-15-2012 05:18 PM

Because there is enough waste, in our dumps everywhere! If a company can put granite over existing counter tops, why not and go GREEN!!! We thought it was a cool concept. We heard there were ways to cut the ugly back splash off, but we weren't sure which tool would work best.

Thanks to all that replied.

Happy Father's Day weekend to all you Dad's out there! :)

kelly

joecaption 06-15-2012 08:39 PM

Never in a million years would I take a job where someone asked me to add it over a formica top.

A few screws under the counter is all that's holding it in place.

I can not think of one single good reason to leave them in place and go over them.

Bonzai 06-16-2012 09:59 AM

I guess it all depends on your definition of "going green". Granite slabs come from a quarry and have to be shipped to the supplier (stone yard) and then they are machined smooth and to the desired shape ... So plenty energy used to make each slab and transport it unless you live beside the quarry / stone yard. If your existing counter is in such good condition (which it will need to be) to support a granite slab then why not carefully remove it and donate it to someone else or use it in the garage, for example. Ultimately though ... Installing granite counters on top is a very bad idea for so many reasons. One of which (other than structural integrity) is that now the counter installer needs to create a large lip to overhang your exiting counters to hide the old edge. This means more stone and epoxy filler ... So really the "green" argument doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Also your counters will now be higher than standard and deeper too ... So all the base cabinets and under counter appliances will be set back more than normal in relation to the new counter edge.

user1007 06-16-2012 10:10 AM

OP, I just assumed you were thinking of a product like this and not a slab of stone?

http://chicago-granitetransformation...pare-products/

As I mentioned, I have been intrigued by kitchens I have seen with this approach. Usually my projects involved gutting the cabinets anyhow so there were no countertops to rescue. I therefore have no direct client experience with the transformation products.

princelake 06-16-2012 11:38 AM

this sounds like a mess of a job and the counter should be completely removed!
just cut it off with a reciprocating saw

cibula11 06-16-2012 11:50 AM

For the time involved in removing that back splash I would pull the countertops.....look into donating them to habitat for humanity or some other local place, put down 3/4 underlayment if needed, and put the solid surface over top.

Maybe as others have suggested you are considering doing the thinner sheets that go over laminate......in this case a reciprocating saw or dremmel tool would be your best bet.

princelake 06-16-2012 12:09 PM

ya donating would be a good idea. or giving it to someone that needs a counter for their camp or something.
i know some millwork places have a "wood" bin where they get sent to get grinded up to make wood pellets.

KellyK 06-18-2012 02:25 PM

Granite overlay
 
Yes, sdsester..... Granite Transformers. It's suppose to be as good as regular Granite counter tops, but not as costly.

Does anybody know of anyone who has done the overlay? How did they like the end results?

Thanks
Kelly

user1007 06-18-2012 02:43 PM

As I mentioned, I have seen jobs where this process was used. The results looked great. I spec a really nice recycled glass composite material for countertops often. Same concept but for a full thickness. The thickness of the overlay material itself with the Granite Transformations would be my concern. It is reliant on the existing countertops for support and I would just hope it is thick enough itself to hold up to dropping a pot or cutting on it.

Canarywood1 06-18-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyK (Post 946205)
Yes, sdsester..... Granite Transformers. It's suppose to be as good as regular Granite counter tops, but not as costly.

Does anybody know of anyone who has done the overlay? How did they like the end results?

Thanks
Kelly



Always remember,you get what you pay for,and i would be very hesitant to put anything hot on a man made product.

KellyK 06-25-2012 07:26 PM

sdsester,

We wouldn't be doing any cutting or pot dropping, on the new counters. If we decide to go this transformers route, we'll def. let you know how they turned out! :)

We hear what you all are saying! We are going to check out other options.

Take care
kelly


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