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Old 01-30-2007, 11:03 AM   #16
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Do screw heads really need to be mudded with three coats?


I may be wrong about this, but right now, I still think that screwing them in by hand, (I admit it is a labour intensive process, presently I am screwing in the wood screws by hand, as I can't be bothered to change the drill bit after I have drilled a pilot hole, so I do them all by hand, I have so far put in 500 screws by hand.) but that would give you the best outcome.

The screw can be directed exactly as you direct it.
Whereas, with a screw gun, there is always some shifting.

(Mind you, I am saying all this because I have not tried doing it yet.
I bet, I may change my mind then.)

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Old 01-30-2007, 03:32 PM   #17
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I do some of mine with 18V in the beginning when I haven't got my screw gun... it is still managable...

but by hand.... I really think it is not doable in this case for the 70 drywalls you are talking about... I doubt anyone here would argue...

it is already hard enough to hold the drywall in place (even with lift)... "getting the screws into the stud" is the last thing you want to worry about...

I think even "Terminator" would have hard time to put in 2000 screws by hand consider he does 60 in a day...

if you really don't want to buy another tool... use drywall nails which is the old way of doing it.. which many people still do these days I believe....
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Old 01-30-2007, 03:40 PM   #18
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I will have to give it a try.

I guess, you never really know how something is until you've tried it.

Thanks for the information.
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:41 AM   #19
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OK, I used advice above (AtlanticWBconst) by trying to mud all screw heads into columns of mud... but when I tried that, I find out only a very thin layer of mud be able to put between screws easily... I don't know if I should make a thicker layer... the layer is so thin that it is almost transparent.... I saw my garage being done that way by the builder, so I doubt if I should make a thicker layer...

please let me know should I make a thicker layer?
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You may be wiping off too much. It should be 'white' once dry. Try 'floating' the knife more and not pressing so hard. You want it thick enough that you have something to sand! But be careful not to sand it all off. What I see a lot of DIYer's do with mud is glob it on and then sand it all right off. First coat will look thin, then use a wider knife for the second coat. I'm sorry this isn't easy to explain. It's one of those 'show me' kinda things.
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:19 AM   #21
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Thanks, all I have to say, this mudding jobs seems endless to me... to me... it is harder/longer than hanging the drywall... for drywall, at least once hang, its done, no need to go back.... those kind of things I think a more detail person would like... not me... probably yummy mommy will like this job... but not me...
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Yeah finishing is much more tedious than hanging.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:14 PM   #23
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You are right. I am looking forward to this job of taping.

Sometimes, I don't mind doing tedious work.

Everyone that I talk to tells me that taping is really difficult to do and make it look good.
But you know, I have to prove them all wrong.
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Tedious??

Back in the eighties, when we did mostly drywall work, we would do huge condo complexes.

That meant doing the same identical interior layout for each unit.......

Try doing that unit, after same unit, after same unit.....over and over, and over, and over.....

....You want to talk about endless taping...UGH.




Plus side was: You were forced to get real good and real fast at it....
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:44 PM   #25
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That is what I plan on doing.

Getting REAL GOOD at it.
Practice makes perfect, as the saying goes.


Boring yes.........
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I found out that if I use those 14x4 towels instead of straight head, I am able to keep the mud on the wall between screw heads.... l start fall in love with those 14x4 towels... it looks more difficult to use than straight head but I found out they are in fact easier... I for sure go back to do all my outside corner the third layer with this tool rather than 12" straight head....

And this morning, I tried to count how many inside corner, seam I need to finish for second coating.... again... I lost count.... may be tomorrow is better...

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This might sound like a stupid question but what is 4X14 towel?
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This might sound like a stupid question but what is 4X14 towel?

Ha, ha, he means simply a: 14" wide - plastering trowel.

However, we use 12" taping knives, not trowels. Some tapers use trowels, and some use knives....it is always a big debate about which is better....and it always boils down to personal opinions....
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I did think it was "trowel", but since I am not totally familiar with drywall tools, I thought there may have been something called a "towel".

I have not tried either yet, but I imagine that the knife would be the easier one?


Thanks for the clarification.
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Yes straight head looks more straight forward... but don't just think it is easier/better by looking.... until you try and compare, you may like the trowel more.... I judge the same way in the begginning and go with straight head most of my muddings.... but then I accidentally find "trowels" can lead to great result with good quality mud... I then now don't want to do without it...

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