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Old 11-26-2012, 06:12 PM   #16
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So does the mesh HAVE to be "tacked" to the slab floor for the first mortar bed layer??

Can this drain assembly be purchased at a big box store??

Do I use screws for the wonder board??

Sorry so many questions, I figured I would do the shower first then get into the rest of the room. Next, I'm thinking of turning the toilet 90 deg to face the vanity, and back it up a few inches for more room. This would take some digging I didn't really want to do..the lav and shower meet where the toilet is now. Lots of rearranging. Talk me out of it please.

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So does the mesh HAVE to be "tacked" to the slab floor for the first mortar bed layer??

Can this drain assembly be purchased at a big box store??

Do I use screws for the wonder board??

Sorry so many questions, I figured I would do the shower first then get into the rest of the room. Next, I'm thinking of turning the toilet 90 deg to face the vanity, and back it up a few inches for more room. This would take some digging I didn't really want to do..the lav and shower meet where the toilet is now. Lots of rearranging. Talk me out of it please.
Yes the drains are available at the Home Depot--I like square covers so I get mine at the plumbing supply house---Depot may have square covers.

For walls screws are best.

As to moving the under slab plumbing--do it--that bath will last a long time---do it right and enjoy it---It's only scary the first time you do something like that---I own my own jack hammer---

You mention 'wicking' never had an issue --stop the rock just above the liner---pack the top layer of deck mud against it----
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:24 AM   #18
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Next, I'm thinking of turning the toilet 90 deg to face the vanity, and back it up a few inches for more room. This would take some digging I didn't really want to do..the lav and shower meet where the toilet is now. Lots of rearranging. Talk me out of it please.
I think the toilet facing the vanity would look strange, but do give careful thought to the vanity and sink - clearances for any doors or drawers to open against the toilet. And do you want the sink centered, or off set to one side?
You might consider a narrower vanity, on the wall with the toilet. It would give you more floor space.
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I think the toilet facing the vanity would look strange, but do give careful thought to the vanity and sink - clearances for any doors or drawers to open against the toilet. And do you want the sink centered, or off set to one side?
You might consider a narrower vanity, on the wall with the toilet. It would give you more floor space.
This is what I'm doing. Toilet will face away from sink. Sink will be on the wall with the toilet. Shower will be between the two doors. A 42 x 34 shower should allow enough room for door clearance.

Right now, I'm leveling/smoothing the floor before framing the walls and ceiling. The ceiling is concrete(porch floor) so it will be insulated with rigid foam(aluminum side down) and held up with ceiling framing and this will be supported with wall framing.

Would you run water lines through ceiling or through the wall behind toilet and sink?? The ceiling may actually be warmer because there's a n interior room above.

The exhaust fan will probably have to go on one of the walls so I don't loose ceiling height with a 6 or 8" exhaust pipe. (2 in. rigid, 1.5 in. Framing, and drywall).

Can I lay framing flat on ceiling for 6' spans??
Would you use a humidistat in the exhaust fan for a basement bath??

Sorry I'm not being very friendly. I'm kind of in a hurry toget the job done but I do appreciate your feedback and hope others can benefit from my questions as well.
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Here's a plan:

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Here's my new question: could you live with a 77" rough height (Pre-mud pan) shower stall?? Picture below.
Otherwise I'll have to jack floor out for sunken pan. This may put an unwanted reverse slope in floor drain run; the measure tape shows 7" before it "hits" p trap; not sure if its hitting the side or bottom of p trap/elbow. There's no where else to put the shower.

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I wouldn't do 77". I just measured ours and it's 80" from the finished shower pan to the ceiling, and it's claustrophobic. And, the shower head coming out of the wall winds up about shoulder height on a 6' person like myself, so it's real hard to wash hair.

The only way I'd even consider it would be if you could somehow get a flushmount showerhead that installed into the ceiling so a average adult could get water on the top of their head while standing.
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I wouldn't do 77". I just measured ours and it's 80" from the finished shower pan to the ceiling, and it's claustrophobic. And, the shower head coming out of the wall winds up about shoulder height on a 6' person like myself, so it's real hard to wash hair.

The only way I'd even consider it would be if you could somehow get a flushmount showerhead that installed into the ceiling so a average adult could get water on the top of their head while standing.
Thank for your input. The step down pan would also be a nice feature.
Or, The shower stall is about 32 x 42 so I guess if I used a ceiling mount shower head, it could be off toward the side so you're not always in rinse mode, right?
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The shower stall is about 32 x 42 so I guess if I used a ceiling mount shower head, it could be off toward the side so you're not always in rinse mode, right?
True, I wouldn't want to have to turn the water off when lathering up, just step aside from the ceiling waterfall. So yeah, off-center would probably work out well.

I see Grohe makes an Rainshower "F-series" flushmount shower head. Not saying Grohe is the only one or even the best of course, just the first that popped up in my search.
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Ripped out slab and starting over.


The design with toilet facing sink is better, right?
I am starting from one 4" drain where the toilet is, the north and west walls are exterior, and the only place the east door can be is exactly where it's at. All else can change.
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Personally, I prefer the first layout, with the sink and toilet facing the room rather than facing each other. I think it would feel roomier.
With the second layout, I'm afraid when you get them in place they may be closer than you think and look forced in there.
But that's just my two cents, yours is what counts.

Are there any windows involved?
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Um to be honest I can't decide.
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whats the name of that app you are using?
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Personally, I prefer the first layout, with the sink and toilet facing the room rather than facing each other. I think it would feel roomier.
With the second layout, I'm afraid when you get them in place they may be closer than you think and look forced in there.
But that's just my two cents, yours is what counts.

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Yes. I agree. Thank you. By trying to get more sink/counter space, I will end with less roomy feel.
I might have to move the south wall more south a little. I want more room for a real vanity for "dressing".
Unfortunately, there is a natural break; a low I beam (about 76") where the south wall is now. Unless I have a big step-down bathroom which seems odd. Also, can't go down much more because of the French drain.
As for windows, the top of wall is 3 feet above grade and it would be a basement window. I would like a window but concerned about the exterior aesthetics. But none right now.
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Um to be honest I can't decide.
Sorry tylernt, I'm taking several steps back, even though tons of help from everyone, and ripping out slab. Too many obstacles with the old slab.
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