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Old 10-03-2006, 09:18 AM   #91
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Hi Toneendrew, I would have thought otherwise, that someone like me can do the basement, so could anyone else... the project went slow... not because it is time demanding as it looks... just because I have a 1,2,10,3x years old to take care... 3x is my wife... I spent roughly 30 minutes per day (weekday only) on it... so if you have more time... you can do it faster... most things sound scare but not such a big deal when doing it... like I have to tear down all plastics mentioned above.. which take me all together half an hour to do.... anyhow... thanks for your regards to my mom....

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Old 10-10-2006, 01:17 PM   #92
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I am going to order drywalls from HD and they offer delivery for $60 bucks regardless quantities... this is much better than me and a friend to go to pickup ourselves.... now my question:

can I use 0.5 inch thickness drywalls throughout... including ceiling... you know, book said using 5/8 inches for ceiling for better result etc... but it just too much difficult for me to figure out that how many of this type for ceiling ... and how many for wall... I would rather go with one thickness for simplicity sake... please let me know if I could use 0.5 inches thickness throughout and if this is a common practice...


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Old 10-10-2006, 07:47 PM   #93
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I am going to order drywalls from HD and they offer delivery for $60 bucks regardless quantities... this is much better than me and a friend to go to pickup ourselves.... now my question:

can I use 0.5 inch thickness drywalls throughout... including ceiling... you know, book said using 5/8 inches for ceiling for better result etc... but it just too much difficult for me to figure out that how many of this type for ceiling ... and how many for wall... I would rather go with one thickness for simplicity sake... please let me know if I could use 0.5 inches thickness throughout and if this is a common practice...


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1/2" for ceilings and walls are fine. (p.s.-throw the book away )

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insulation inspection just passed... this time it is a 2 minutes visit.

drywalls will arrive next Saturday...
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Yesterday, I bought some telephone wires from HD, even the sells person recommend to buy the 50cents/M one, I picked the 30cents/M one as I thought it just an extra telephone, wire is wire, who care about better quality...

I then run the 20 Meter cables on the ceiling... guess what, it doesn't work... I am so lucky that the wire contains 2 pairs of wires, and I am so lucky I thought of trying the second pair, when I tried the 2nd pair of wires, it works, as the first pair is broken somewhere in between...

I almost need to redo my 20 Meter cable running work because of saving five bucks.....
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Drywalls arrived from HD Saturday, "Delivery" is a wise choice, they are so equipped that they are able to put all drywalls inside your garage. So order a large quantity from them and have them deliver.... it makes a lot of sense... I moved half of them to basement already with my relatives already, both of us complain about back pain the next day, we will wait for a while before moving the other half, I am delighted we space out the garage before the delivery, couldn't think of what can we do if the drywalls were dumped on the driveway only in a rainy day...
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After I got the lift yesterday, I quickly tried to install my first ceiling drywall.... now learn these :

1. don't be too eager to try your new toy (lift in this case), got scold by my wifle at 12 pm doing screwing where she and her two children, mine too, standing besides the stairway...

2. mark the opening on the drywall before putting it up, I found it so difficult to work against the earth gravity, try to drew up side down, ink don't even come out, and the long ruler just not holding up even they are made of steel and I have to use my head to hold them against the drywall to draw a line.

3. the lift is great, it takes no effort... only effort is to put the drywall onto the lift which is better done with two people, in this case, my cousin give me a hand and then he walked back to his internet poker game...

4. if you don't mark on the top plates like I didn't, not following up the book... you then need to use a hand held lazer level, this tool is super, you can tace the whole line from the joist by making out a lazer line along the joist... in theory, you don't need to mark anything if you have this tool... I discover this method half of the job... not taught in the book, may be that time they wrote the book , lazer level is not available yet...

5. get a good spiral saw, I used my cheap rotary tool from Canadian T... it just not up for the job, bit fall out after a little bit run... Now I am back to the market shopping for a real powerful one...and yes, ware a mask and eye potection... I miss the fine print on the book talking about a lot of dust with spiral saw... it is in deed a lot of dust...

That's it for now...

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I am reading your experiences with drywall, kui****g, and am paying close attention.

I am learning from your experiences.
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Yes yummy mummy, read on, I am going to try to use another approach to cut hole for the recess light, base on the book, they said, put some chaulk on the metal frame, press the drywall on it, then cut the hole base on the chaulk mark with a hole saw... I will try that as with the lift, this should be doable... as I cannot wait for the spirtal saw which I don't know when I will have it, I need to shop around for that... I will also try to use zaber saw to cut some drywall opening for the one I already put up... for the first ceiling ... it is not too bad...
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I cut an opening on the drywall I posted day before. I used the Black and Decker cordless versapak three inch circular saw. This tool is perfect for this job, light, no noise, enough power for cutting drywall, the drywall wound is so precise and clean... I used it together with a hand saw for corner.... I should tried the versapak jigsaw next time.... anyway, for long line window/door opening type cut... 3" circular saw I believe is the best to use... using spiral saw generate a lot of dust and cannot cut that straight, use hand saw, the wound will not be that pretty, and again it won't be as straight, use jig saw also not as straight....

only did that much today due to time constraint.... in the end of Dec, my wife is again going to visit her parents in US for a few months... I expect major time will be spent then...
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Great job so far! I too have learned alot and think I will also use steel in my basement now. Thank you for taking so many hours to document your troubles and successes. It means alot to us DIY'ers out here.

I just closed on my first real house a couple weeks ago we are trying to work in at while we are living in it. Just got all moved last week and have already began the plumbing process. So my basement is still drying out yet. As soon as I can find my camera I too want to document every little step with loads of pictures to put on my website. Hopefully more than just myself will learn from my mistakes too.

I am only replying to say thank you for all the effort put into this thread, I do hope you have more pictures coming soon and continue writing on your project/s as they should come along.
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Old 11-02-2006, 08:54 AM   #102
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1. don't force/jam a drywall into place, it will break, and it did

if it happens, replace it by cutting out a small piece and I am glad I did that, the broken piece is completely useless and is affecting the infrastructure if left alone

2. make sure screws go in pretty vertical

I didn't do that and found out screws cannot go in at the end and a little bit expose, if it is not vertica angle, the screw does not have enough force to push in at the end, and cannot flush...
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which is most of the case, there are two approach I have in mind:

1. left gap here or there and let the tapper to fill in the gap(s)

2. use angle grinder to trim the rock to while fitting in

I don't like the book recommendation saying to do exact measurment and do precutting before hanging. to me that is too much mathematics and too time consuming...

any professional can give some advice here?
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I finally tried the book recommended method /traditional method of cutting drywall, with cutter and snapping...

I found the wound is by no mean close to the perfect cut from circular saw...

I think a non smooth edge is not as good and probably will make the tapper a little bit more difficult...

I don't know why no where in the book/net tell people to use circular saw for cutting drywall rather than cutter/snapping approach...

I already stock myself up with 9 versa pak batteries and intend to do all my drywall cutting with circular saw....

I wonder if any professional using circular saw... it indeed takes longer... but it has better result...
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I tried this, unfortunately, I have two recess lights holes on the same sheet, it only stamp one recess light sucessfully.... it is still quite hard to press it up with the lift....

I will try again next time with the help of two home-made T support see if it gets better result...

Seems to me Spiral saw is still the way to go for cutting holes...

Traditional old fashion way of measuring and cut before hanging is too much mathematics to me, even I got A in my high school Math...

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