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Old 08-25-2006, 07:55 AM   #76
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Again, inspection is kind of less serious then I thought, again, I was not at the scene. Inspector call me at work and I was away from my desk, then he visited my place as my wife is home. It took approx 5 minutes. He did point out three things:

- the switch for the furnance has to be moved outside the furnance room, this is because in case there is trouble inside the furnance room, someone can turn off the switch without opening the door.

- insulation material need to be put between wires and heat supply pipe when they are close together

- do not use metal claims but plastic ones, I am talking about those metal strips which has a holes at each end where you can screw them into place... I used plastic ones in the beginning, but at the end, I saw those metal ones and they are 3 times cheaper.. so I purchase one bag to fastening the last 25 clamps... well end up, I need to remove them...

- inspector also suggest to install a outlet for ironing in the laundry/bath room... good idea..

overall, this is not too bad... although it costs me $160 bucks... I am quite please with it...

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Old 08-29-2006, 08:14 AM   #77
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INSULATION INSTALLATION

In case you have insulation you tore down like I did which can be reused... do not reuse them right away... instead, purchase new ones... use them on the regular 16" spacing studs... for those irregular spacing studs. use the old one... the old one can be reused but make sure you double them up as it is thinner than the new one because when you tore down the old one... part of it is gone sticking to the plastic sheets... I made the mistake rush in using them on one wall without doubling it up... I may redo it at the end if I have left over insulation... installing new insulation is really quick and easy as they are precut at the 16" spacing... don't hire someone to do this easy job rather than doing it yourself...

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Old 08-31-2006, 01:49 PM   #78
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Start feeling pain on the electrical permit stuff...

Yesterday I received a letter from the electrical safty authorization outlining four defects reported by the 5 minutes visit inspector... I didn't know they have to do it so formal... saying I have to correct them in xyz days to avoid their taking further actions... One of the defect is in fact not ture... don't know how the inspector come up with that... saying I didn't have a dedicated circuit for the washer...etc. which is exactly untrue, I reported that this morning.... the other 3 defects is so minor I wonder they bother putting them on paper... well the bad news is it costs extra to have those defects being reinspect.... those three other defects are : 1. move the furnance switch from inside furnance room to outside furnance room. 2. remove metal strip clamps (a handful of them) and replace with plastics ones. 3. put insulation on wire where it is close to heat supply lines....
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Old 09-05-2006, 03:49 PM   #79
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The inspector will make surprise visit... but they are generally reasonable, not trying to pin you down by checking every minor aspects of your installation... I am close to the drywalling stage now... I intend to hire a student, kind of to help me, not that I don't want to pass the job to a contractor, but after significant considerations, I choose this because:

1. I know what I should do and therefore only doing it myself would ensure that, if you rely on a contractor, he will do it his way and more than likely it will be differed from what you have in mind...

2. it is again the pride and ownership reason, as you want to say you build everything, rather than everything but drywalling...

3. it should cost less as you use your own labour, as you are the director, the student kind of helping you, so you don't need to pay primium wages...
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Please tell me you've taken some pictures of your project and are going to post them sometime soon? Yes?
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:35 AM   #81
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Thank you for your interested Harleysilo, I will post the pictures in next few days.. with explanations..etc. it is going to be fun...

Anyhow, you know what people, I post an AD in the internet in my community (free), and get reply from a 30 years old person from my community, don't say I am cheap. but that is the market wages in Toronto this days. $10 per hour... I will use him in Oct for drywalling after I done with all insulations and minor framing work...etc...

Bad news is my mom is in hospital, so I need to look after her sometimes... but we believe in God(Jesus) and put everything on his shoulder... this will slow my project a bit though....

side news, electrical inspector came again yesterday, but this time he complained he thought I finished drywalling and waste him a trip... he said I should have let him know not to come as it is not finished drywalling etc.etc. when he called... the problem is, the original inspector is on vacation causing all these confusion... the bottom line is I hope they wouldn't charge me for this visit, my wife think otherwise though... so make sure you know if an inspector should come or not , clear communications, before letting/inviting them to come... it costs ...

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http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/kuipor...641re2&.src=ph

first picture is the wash/laundry room. See all the plumbing I did.

the other pictures show steel studs, wood studs, flooring, lighting...etc.
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Will the inspector allow you to email photos of the items that need inspecton rather then having him come out to look at the items?

Hope your mother health improves
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Thank you for your concern regarding my mom's health, Redline, as a matter of fact, my mom's situation is getting better, which is kind of out of our surprise, thanks God for that, and we hope she and us continue to have strength to face what ever challenge up coming...

Inspectors here is divided by regions, so they drive around all the time from place to place nearby, for them to pop in is not much, and they definitely preferred that than looking at the tube, after all, Canada is kind of a more old fashion country when comparing to US, may be after 10 or so years, they will consider that, but I don't think they consider it now...
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after all, Canada is kind of a more old fashion country when comparing to US, may be after 10 or so years, they will consider that, but I don't think they consider it now...

Yeah, I hear that, every time I drive through Canada, I'm amazed at how behind the music is in relation to the US.

Glad to hear your mom is doing better.
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Another headache today. Inspector said the vapour barrier I used is too thin... not the standard one... I saw a big plastic rolls selling in Ebay for 99 cents... they are self sticking... so that I don't need to use stapler, and I don't have one... then I bought it and use it... now it is no good..... I need to clarify now with inspector can I just put the standard one on top of what I had in place so that at least I have two layers of vapour barrier one on top of the other.... so that my labour and material cost is not totally waste and I can sleep better...

this time the inspector is a lady... don't know if this has anything to do with it being so strict... My six sense told me there is going to be somthing wrong after I learned that it is a lady inspector coming over...

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Here is the details:

the lady inspector said I need to find a specification for the plastic I am using for the vapour barrier, from the store where I bought it, to see if it fullfill the city's standard... I didn't tell her I get it from Ebay...

she said it is ok for me to buy the regular plastic and put it on top of the existing one... is this true, ... or it is again somthing called double barrier?.... I should tear down existing plastic? anyone know?

she said I need to put in vapour barrier in the washroom even I intend to use green board... can anyone clarify this is correct? because I remember reading from book, it is a "not to do thing" to avoid double barrier....

I need to insulated all the small stone areas she see. Is this normal for basement you have a little area here or there don't insulated, such as area below the electrical panel, behind the water heater..etc because those areas are hard to frame... anyone has any experience on this to share...

the good news is next inspectation will be passed back to my original inspector, this inspector is worse than my mother in law ...

Well, insulation is more complicated than I thought...
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Here is the details:
she said it is ok for me to buy the regular plastic and put it on top of the existing one... is this true, ... or it is again somthing called double barrier?.... I should tear down existing plastic? anyone know?
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It would not be a double barrier.

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she said I need to put in vapour barrier in the washroom even I intend to use green board... can anyone clarify this is correct? because I remember reading from book, it is a "not to do thing" to avoid double barrier.......
Green Board (Moisture resistant board) is not rated to serve as a vapor barrier. It has a light waxed coating over the paper face. It is NOT a vapor tight material.

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I need to insulated all the small stone areas she see. Is this normal for basement you have a little area here or there don't insulated, such as area below the electrical panel, behind the water heater..etc because those areas are hard to frame... anyone has any experience on this to share... ...
Yes, it is as she told you.

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Thanks for the information and confirmation AtlanticWBConst. It does make me feel better...

Now I can see insulation is kind of a big job.... not much less than electricity. well may be a bit less.. considering you have to cover every corner of stones here or there... it probably takes a couple of weeks or so to finish it..

I kind of ok with the inspector as well now...

in theory, if I had not applied the permit, I would not have discovered these mistakes... so for perfectionist, applying permit is the way to go... I bet even some contractors do not do things 100% according to code...

Thanks...
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I have been doing research because my I want to finish my basement. So I ended up here and have read your saga Kui****g. Mind you my husband and I are both DIY'ers and have done all of our home remodelling. But you have just scared me into getting a home equity loan so that we can hire someone else to do it for us. Your saga is very informative.
Goodluck on finishing your project. Hope you finish soon so you can enjoy all of your hard work. Glad your mom is doing better.

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