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Old 12-14-2006, 08:46 AM   #136
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Good idea... a lot of work for tiling... My parent's old house used to do that. They hire a contractor doing this. May be the tile they choose or whatever reason or may be you want to consult some tiling expert here... I found out there are condensation moisture on the surface of the tiles in summar times... making the tiles not very present feeling and quite sticky and dirty.... or may be just because my parents is not very tidy people... the tiles they choose are those shinely types, may be different types will help... well, they don't have air conditioner either... may be that is why...


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Old 12-14-2006, 09:25 AM   #137
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I tried the paper cutting mould approach to transfer shapes to drywall cutting... not too successful... I waste $5 bucks buying those paper... I end up have places with large gaps which I need to fill in small pieces of drywalls...

looks like tape measure still the best way even I hate it so much...
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Old 12-14-2006, 10:35 AM   #138
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Tape measure I guess would give you the most accurate cut.

How about marking the area with lipstick and them press the drywall against it and then bring it down and cut it.

Do you think would work?

My parents also have ceramic in basement and it is pretty good.
They have the one that is not shiny.
Also, I will have area rugs throughout the basement for the kids area.
Hopefully it will work.
At least it will be better than concrete, which is what is there now, and it is very difficult to keep it clean, even though I clean it all the time. Dust always seems to get there somehow.
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the problem with the stamp and press approach is that drywall is too heavy and it is not always work on odd spaces..... the tape is accurate only when it is linear, when it is two dimension when things are not right angle, tape measure is not accurate either...

anyway...

if anyone can invent somthing to solve this difficulties. I am sure his invention can bring him multi-million dollars...
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Old 12-14-2006, 06:21 PM   #140
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What do you think the professionals do?

I wonder?


If they can put up drywall so fast, then they must have some secret that we don't know.
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Old 12-15-2006, 08:39 AM   #141
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I think they use the tape measure... tape measure is not particular slow. it just eat my mind power... which I need to remember the numbers... such as 18 3/16 inches height , 63 1/2 inches width. and I don't like to carry pen/notebook around, so I have to repeating two or three numbers from where I measure to where I cut... and the drywall whether up side down will change the measurement from left to right or right to left... all these stuff making my mind very tiring... I don't like to use my brain as my full time job already use it for so much as I am a computer person...
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What do you think the professionals do?

I wonder?


If they can put up drywall so fast, then they must have some secret that we don't know.

As with all areas of the trades, there are MANY, many tricks, shortcuts, etc...Not to mention having all the right tools needed.

We measure to within 1/4" of actual measurements. We rarely have to 'trim' down a cut.... If you ever see a pro running a screw gun, 'he or she'... is popping the screws in about every 2 seconds. We use routers to cut out electrical boxes and lights. The utility knives (the ones we use don't retract) ... move so fast you would think that the workers cut themselves more often. In a good long day, an experinced hanger can put up 40 sheets...

Don't compare yourself to any of that....you'll get depressed. Just go at your own pace and enjoy your DIY project while learning more tips of the trade ...
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I did assume that they have much more experience than a regular diy person.

I have seen them work before, on my house and could not believe how quick the house was transformed in just 2 days.

I plan to do it one small step at a time when I am at that point.
Because even one small step, eventually, it gets done.

I have a knack for paying attention to detail, so hopefully that will come in handy, in terms of measurements, etc.

By the way, Atlantic, I have built my first soffit. I am pretty impressed with myself as I am only 1/4 inch off, which for a first timer, to me, is not that bad.
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Atlantic is right, I hang 2 sheets this morning in about an hour. so for one day 8 hours, I can hang 16 sheets in theory... but I get tire so often taking break so often... so I will be looking at less than that in practical.... I also have all the tools mentioned by Atlantic, drywall screwgun, router,...etc. I have yet to cut an outlet without any mud fixing required, the lights I used 5" circle bit and it was perfect all the time... I find the outlet standard cover is just too little tolerance for mistake... anyhow... I will try my next outlet to be perfect... I didn't do those measurement, but the routher goes to the box which has the receptacles installed already, the router bit can cut into the receptacle easily.... may be there is a trick to tackle this... any idea is appreciated as I still have quite a number of receptacles need to handle...

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Can you make a hole in the area that you have to cut on the drywall, and then draw what you need to cut and use a drywall knife to cut it out?

I was just wondering.
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the point of using the router is you don't need to measure and draw on drywall before hanging... what I did is just make a rough measure on the center of the box approx, hang the drywall, the use the router to cutin the center then to the way out, as there is receptacles on the other side, I cannot cut through the drywall, instead, I adjust the routher to the width of the drywall.. this sounds good but give practical problem because it always left some paper at the end which make visability not good and I then use some utility knife to clear up the end side... then when seeing what's behind start cutting... sounds in theory you won't cut too much... but that depends if you are a patient guy, for me, not too patient, I always cut a bit too much with the router...well I hope the next one will be better,... it is not the end of the world, as it can be fixed by muds... just a bit extra work...
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I have finished drywalling during the holiday... here are some new experience to share:

1. do not cheap on materials... use bit and pieces, it is not worth considering drywalls are so cheap, always try to use the largest piece possible.

2. stuff heat resistant insulation into soffit which contains ducts/heat trunks... they are cheaper and easier than those silver shinning materials.

3. a drywall cutting router, a drywall screw gun, a lift... is a very good thing to have for DIYers .... if not a must.... also cordless compact cutting saw (receptical, circular, jig-saw) are very handy when cutting various shaped drywalls.

4. use wood studs rather than steels... this is reiteration, but I find it is much more easier to install the corner bead with wood than steel... just another reason...

5. I still use some molding technique to cut strange shaped drywalls...by stapled a bunch of cardboard papers on the wall/ceiling then tape them together then take it down for molding ... a perfect shape can be made, it is worth the time for somthing large/strange/shapes... I have one of those in the ceiling...
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Congratulations, kui****g

You are finished. Your wife must be really happy.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. I will need to refer to them one day.
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I actually only finished hanging the drywalls...

mudding and painting...etc. stuff has not done yet... as I heard mudding is the toughest job which requires most skills... so I should not be happy too soon... may be after one or more month... I will sure post some pictures to show the result...
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I would love to see some pictures.
Yes, I also heard that mudding is a job that requires some skill.
But I also think that if you practice and practice, you will for sure get it.

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