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Grofica 04-21-2010 10:15 AM

Any GC's here???
 
I dont know if this is the right place to ask but i am getting a little mad at trying to figure this out on my own... what is the best order to do this project....
  • Install tile in the kitchen, bathrooms and laundryroom
  • install laminate flooring in the rest of the house to include stairs
  • paint the interior
  • Install new cabinets in the kitchen and bathrooms
The cabinets will take 4 weeks to come in because they have to be ordered....

I have floor people who are scared to death to do the floor before the cabinet people....

the cabinet people are a good and reputable company

i have family in the house right now so it makes things a little harder...

what order can i do this in and have it be the easiest... everyone says something different and i am tired of trying to figure it out alone... someone please help!!!!

:furious: :( :furious: :( :furious: :(

huck 04-21-2010 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grofica (Post 431479)
I dont know if this is the right place to ask but i am getting a little mad at trying to figure this out on my own... what is the best order to do this project....
  • Install tile in the kitchen, bathrooms and laundryroom
  • install laminate flooring in the rest of the house to include stairs
  • paint the interior
  • Install new cabinets in the kitchen and bathrooms
The cabinets will take 4 weeks to come in because they have to be ordered....

I have floor people who are scared to death to do the floor before the cabinet people....

the cabinet people are a good and reputable company

i have family in the house right now so it makes things a little harder...

what order can i do this in and have it be the easiest... everyone says something different and i am tired of trying to figure it out alone... someone please help!!!!

:furious: :( :furious: :( :furious: :(


1. paint interior
2. install cabinets
3. install flooring

If it were mine, this is the order in which i would do them.

Huck

Grofica 04-21-2010 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huck (Post 431488)
1. paint interior
2. install cabinets
3. install flooring

If it were mine, this is the order in which i would do them.

Huck

right now there are cabinets in the ktichens and bathrooms that are not like what will be in there... i dont know about how much taller or shorter the cabinets are that are going in then the ones i have know but its pretty different style and set up...

huck 04-21-2010 11:02 AM

I would not put any new flooring in untill all new cabinets are installed. The difference in the shoe print of old verses new could be dramatic, then you may find your new floor doesn't excactly match up.

HUck

Grofica 04-21-2010 11:06 AM

but for the painting????

Big Bob 04-21-2010 10:15 PM

cabinets

painting

floor covering

:yes:

always plan on a little paint touch-up
after the floor work...

Scuba_Dave 04-21-2010 10:28 PM

I always paint the walls/ceiling before putting in cabinets
Touch up after if needed

Careful if you have a dishwasher & have (thick) floor installed after the cabinets
Sometimes you can't get the dishwasher out, or the new one in

My last house I did the vinyl floor under everything 1st
Then cabinets, then tiled backsplash

oh'mike 04-21-2010 10:40 PM

I'm a remodeling contractor---floors first--flooring under cabinets and vanity. Always.

The floors can be protected--and must be. As Scuba Dave mentioned--the cabinet heights must be maintained in order for the appliances to fit---you don't want to find out that the new fridge hits the cabinet above--or the dish washer won't go into the hole.

Paint --at least prime and first coat before the cabinets--make cutting in easier.

Then trim. and final paint--then counter tops.---Mike--

firehawkmph 04-21-2010 11:37 PM

Ditto on what Oh Mike said. Doing a job right now just like that. Just finished putting down hardwood floors today. Starting on cabinets tomorrow.
Mike Hawkins:)

Grofica 04-22-2010 12:13 AM

see i thought that floors were going under the cabinets and i said it about 50 times in every email but i found out the other day tile are NOT going under the cabinets only TO the cabinet... I am a little annoyed to say the least. Everyone kind of wants to do install and rip out the same day (well over 2-3 days that their project will take) and dont really want to make the extra trip out.

I just dont want to put out the people that are there too much i mean i know its going to happen but dont want it to be such a pain... you know....

i just having trouble on figuring out how to coordinate it.... and the floor company said it would be an extra 300 just to put tile under the kichen that didnt include the bathrooms... (sigh) im started to get annoyed. :(

Big Bob 04-22-2010 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Bob (Post 431788)
cabinets

painting

floor covering

:yes:

always plan on a little paint touch-up
after the floor work...


Each project is differant: client needs, schedule, access...etc...
Including scheduling preferances

I like to have floor covering near last on the schedule.
Why: The fewer trades working over the finished floor the better. A. less cover-up expence, traffic, and risk of damage [Murphy's Law (hammers and tools fall) ( paint buckets get knocked over.. wet paint on the bottom of a shoe) ..etc..] the GC always ends up paying... Also clients appear to like having a pristine new floor not subjected to the rigors of remodeling.

I like to schedule K-cabinet install while carpentry trim work is in progess. Depending on project this can be a little messy, saw dust producing, dragging cabinets through tight spots.. banging into walls..etc.
Floor covering is known and if C-tile (samples on site) cabinets are raised to proper height. (to avoid the buried dishwaster syndrome etc...) base is run to the cabinet, shoe-mold can even be pre-cut and left for painters & /or flooring installer.
A. why before flooring.. besides the traffic and murphy's law concerns
why charge for floor covering that is not seen or needed. range & dishwasher alcoves get C-tiled all looks good...grout lines or patterns get squared off cabinets. B. In the future when floor covering is replaced why go through the hassle of "it's under the cabinets".

lot's of ways to do things...whatever works for you. :)

Grofica 04-23-2010 05:37 AM

ok so what if i do it like this... and just not give my family or the various places to much choice...


i guess i have to wait on the cabinets and i should be getting a confirmed date of arrival but right now i dont have it so lets just say 4 weeks from now...

so starting from NOW...

week 1 - nothing

week 2 - nothing

week 3 - monday - have cabinet people remove uppers (my bottom cabinets are the same height but my uppers are not)

week 3 - tuesday - paint the house (x3 days) he can do kitchen and bathrooms first

Week 3 - Thursday - have floor people remove all tile in the house (there is a lot (x2 days)

Week 4 - moday or tuesday - install new cabinets.... / make template for counter tops (sizes are already done but cant make template for sinks until counters are in)

Week 4 - Wednesday - floor people start laying tile (they said tile has to go first - x2 days)

Week 5 - Monday - Floor people start laying laminate (x 5 days)


Is this a realistic or good plan???? the days i mention is what was on the contracts for the places.

:( im so confused :(

mrgins 04-23-2010 12:19 PM

Remove countertops/cabs.
Paint
Floor
Install cabs
touch up paint

Grofica 04-23-2010 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrgins (Post 432454)
Remove countertops/cabs.
Paint
Floor
Install cabs
touch up paint

but how soon before????

the floor company is saying they cant do the floor until after the cabinets are in....

47_47 04-23-2010 12:30 PM

I would wait until I had the cabinets on site, inspected for damage and correctness, before starting anything.


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