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Old 03-14-2013, 02:50 AM   #1
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I have a half bath in my finished basement that i'm thinking about converting into a full bath. However, there's a kickout in the wall with an access panel where I'd be extending the bathroom for the shower. The attached drawing illustrates the situation, and the attached photo shows the panel. The panel is sealed shut, so before i go breaking into there to check it out, i'm wondering if anyone already knows what would be back there and if/how it might affect the extension of the bathroom. thanks.
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What's on the other side of the wall?
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Kinda looks like an access panel to tub/shower plumbing. Although it's a little high for a tub. It would make sense if there was just a shower on the other side.
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Remove it and find out.
Just cut the paint lines before removing.
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Remove it and find out.
Just cut the paint lines before removing.
What...you don't like to peel all the paper on the sheetrock when you remove trim?

We like to see who can get the longest strand. Kind of like peeling and apple in one string.
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thanks for the replies. the pdf that i attached above illustrates it, but i should've posted it as a photo, so that's below. behind the wall that the panel is parallel to is the basement outside foundation. behind the wall on the left is the bathroom i'm wanting to renovate. so plumbing cleanout would make sense. if that's the case, would that have to be moved in order to put a shower there? i'm assuming it shouldn't be blocked off by the shower, but is that a possibility?
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Probably a clean out or a rough in.

Pop it open and lets see.
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what is above the bath (above the panel) on the first floor?

I agree with everyone instead of guessing open the panel and see ....
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Water shut offs, Studer valve, drain clean out, a pot of gold.
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ok, i just cut through the paint at the edges inside the trim with a utility knife, and then i realized it's not a "panel" there. it's actually the wall, with a rectangle of trim attached. not sure if that's from the builder, a prior owner, or the Fannie Mae-hired contractor (they seem to have come into the foreclosure and done a quick & dirty patch & spray job all over the house).

i'm not doing this renovation immediately, so i'm not going to cut through the wall yet, but to answer some questions and provide a bit more info... above the panel on the next floor up is the corner of the living room, but just a couple feet away on the other side of a wall is the sink & dishwasher in the kitchen... and two floors up is a full bathroom. on the wall below the trim appears to be 2 golf-ball sized holes, about 20" apart, that have been patched up (poorly). not sure if that info might imply something as well.

Considering the fact that it's right next to the basement half bath and vertically close to kitchen plumbing and another bathroom, it seems likely that it's a drain cleanout. Assuming this is the case, does anyone have thoughts on what it means for the extending the bathroom the way I'm considering?

i get the idea that i shouldn't make a cleanout inaccessible. i think i'll already have to dig into the concrete to do shower plumbing, so maybe it'll be easy to have a plumber relocate the cleanout while they're at it... or just move the sink & toilet plumbing and make it all work a different way. or maybe use the ideas i've brainstormed in the below photo. any thoughts on what's possible and what might work the best (functionally, minimal time/cost, etc).

thanks again for all the replies.
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sorry, meant to add a photo of the patched up holes below the "panel." here they are.
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could be the plumbing running upstairs, closed it in with the wall to dress it up a bit

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