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MikeKy55 02-16-2011 05:56 PM

Top step question
 
I'm in the process of replacing all the treads and risers on my basement project. The top step to the upstairs floor has no overhang of any kind. I'm looking for suggestions. The carpet you see in the photos will be replaced with hardwood in the next year or so, but not right now. As it is, the floor is 90 to the riser. What I have in mind at this point is to use a piece of perhaps 1/4" wood of some kind and cover the existing OSB and let the alum finisher over hang it. I would use drywall, but I fear toes would have it in shambles in short order.

The one with the treads showing is to make sure I'm going at this right. I held the treads out from the studs 1 1/4" to allow for 1/2" drywall and 3/4" baseboards.

oh'mike 02-16-2011 06:37 PM

Can you lay a straight edge onto the front of the steps extending it through the door?

It would help to see how deep the stair nosing at the top (door opening) must be to keep all the stair noses the same.

Where are your risers? If you are going to have them,get them in before the door /stair nose is made.

Bud Cline 02-16-2011 06:42 PM

That much extension looks pretty dangerous to me. Looks as if it might tend to roll over a short time. There's a trip to a hospital.:) Is that thing also glued?:)

MikeKy55 02-16-2011 06:43 PM

Probably. If I understood what you meant. Sorry I'm a little slow tonight. Do you want to know how much nosing there is on the other steps? There is no overhang/nosing at all on the top step.

MikeKy55 02-16-2011 06:46 PM

The top step will be replaced. In fact I still have 4 to replace. Should have mentioned that.

Yes there will be risers. I plan on using 1X material there. I am using 2 X 12's for the treads. I don't have enough room to stretch the stringers out to make the rise less, so I increased the treads so you have room for your foot when stepping down.

Keith Mathewson 02-16-2011 07:33 PM

I've read your post twice and still don't know what you are trying to do.

Landing tread is applied by the floor guys. It comes rabbeted for 1 1/4" nosing.

Skirts go on before risers and risers go on before treads. Landing strip goes on last.

oh'mike 02-16-2011 07:33 PM

Got you----When the step are set (temporary or permanently) then you will be able to determine what you need for the top stair nosing-

You will do this by laying a long straight edge up the new stairs and into the door opening--slip a scrap of your new upstairs flooring through the door until it bumps into the straight edge--Mike---

Keith Mathewson 02-16-2011 07:37 PM

Ol Mike,
That assumes that the carriages are cut correctly. Better to measure nosings off the riser face so as to keep nosing distance constant and not exceed 1 1/4" max code allowance.

MikeKy55 02-16-2011 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 592477)
Got you----When the step are set (temporary or permanently) then you will be able to determine what you need for the top stair nosing-

You will do this by laying a long straight edge up the new stairs and into the door opening--slip a scrap of your new upstairs flooring through the door until it bumps into the straight edge--Mike---

Ok, ok, ok, now I got the straight edge thing, ha ha. I was racking my little pea brain on that one. So simple it went right over my head.

Thanks everyone. Now I have a better grip on what I need to do. Likely I will end up replacing the nosing on the very top step/kitchen floor twice, but thats okay. When I get to the hardwood flooring, I will just have to replace the nosing on that top step/floor/landing so as to match whatever hardwood we use.

Gary in WA 02-16-2011 10:44 PM

It must be my old eyes..... it appears you have triangular blocks nailed on 2x6's for carriages (stringers)?

Usually, just add a 2x4 to the wall side of the stringers for the perfect 1-1/2" space needed. Much stronger and positive nailing to the studs.


Gary

BigJim 02-17-2011 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeKy55 (Post 592446)
The top step will be replaced. In fact I still have 4 to replace. Should have mentioned that.

Yes there will be risers. I plan on using 1X material there. I am using 2 X 12's for the treads. I don't have enough room to stretch the stringers out to make the rise less, so I increased the treads so you have room for your foot when stepping down.

One thing to be sure of is to not have too much over hang of the treads as it will be a toe catcher.

The landing tread on the top landing will look good. You will have to cut the door jamb and trim for it to go under.


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