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Old 05-21-2011, 12:38 PM   #16
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Just had to revive this thread. I've been researching, following some of the leads and tips I got here, and through the site that Mike in Arkansas recommended, I got hold of the best window restoration site in the world, and I thought I'd pass it on to anyone who pulls up this thread with questions similar to mine:

http://www.historichomeworks.com/hhw/index.htm

Anyone considering repairing their old wooden windows rather than replacing them should go there first! I have learned so much. This guy even does workshops every year, training people how to save their windows. Single-pane, wood framed windows can have comparable efficiency to modern vinyl replacements when

a) storm windows are used
b) the windows are properly maintained
c) the windows are properly installed and insulated

...and I don't think anyone's going to argue that they're a heck of a lot prettier, unless you want to spend $1000+ per window for custom-made, historically accurate replacements.

There's also really interesting information on this site about removing paint and old glazing putty using steam, useful for much more than window sashes.
What a sack of horse you know what.

You need to be able open a window to get air to the house now and then. And call me crazy but being able to see out of a window is important to me. Sure I could order up storm windows for the exterior and even interior sides of the windows. And leave them on all year for the sake of the AC and heating bills.

Why not get authentic looking replacement gas windows instead? Of course I will miss the old wavy glass in true antique windows. And the weights. And the hardware to latch them shut. And I guess trying to square the things and/or their frames after a century of building settling and stresses.

I am a sap. I will restore anything that makes sense for no money. Windows, after a point are another matter. It makes zilch sense to restore a 19th century window when there are matching look replacements availed.

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Old 05-21-2011, 02:49 PM   #17
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I know it's nitpicky, but remember, he said this was to "stabilize the decayed pocket for future work," and that it would "limit future deterioriation," not that he was going to "fix" it, even temporarily.

Replacing a sill is a big project--so I can dig this. I wish somebody had done that to the rotten spots on MY sills years ago, rather than filling them with acrylic caulk and sealing in the rot.

I'm doing one window at a time and doing each window completely at once--new brick molding and sill, repair jambs with epoxy hardener and epoxy filler, strip and re-glaze sashes in-shop. Aside from using steam to remove the old paint and putty, I'm using traditional methods and materials, including glazier's putty made of linseed oil and whiting. With proper maintenence, it can last 100 years!

I'll post before and after pix when I get the first one done!
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What a sack of horse you know what.

You need to be able open a window to get air to the house now and then. And call me crazy but being able to see out of a window is important to me. Sure I could order up storm windows for the exterior and even interior sides of the windows. And leave them on all year for the sake of the AC and heating bills.

Why not get authentic looking replacement gas windows instead? Of course I will miss the old wavy glass in true antique windows. And the weights. And the hardware to latch them shut. And I guess trying to square the things and/or their frames after a century of building settling and stresses.

I am a sap. I will restore anything that makes sense for no money. Windows, after a point are another matter. It makes zilch sense to restore a 19th century window when there are matching look replacements availed.
Goodness, I seem to have hit a nerve! Hope I haven't offended.

For me, it's a money issue. I'm a college student living below poverty level; I have much more time than money. I can't afford matching look replacements, I can't even afford cheap n' ugly vinyl replacements. (And from what I've read, I don't want 'em even if I could afford 'em. Don't believe anything you hear about vinyl windows from someone who's trying to sell you vinyl windows.) I can restore all of my windows for less than $1000, tools AND materials.

My storm windows are aluminum, probably put on in the '60s or '70s. They're not pretty, but they do open and close easily. I'm all about letting in fresh air, even in wintertime. Mine don't have weights and pulleys, the sashes slide up and down on a bar, so less work there. Plus only one muntin!

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You long island people have such attitude. Typical almost NYC tudes, a suburb away, going on every day. Be honest for a change. If he leaves the well burnished painter's tape on he will get an extra six months. Right?
He was pretty adament about painting the tape.
Now this guy might be a wiz at fixing old windows, but why put such a lame thing on video for all the world to see?
New Yorkers are known the world over as calm, caring individuals who if they see someone dead in the street, carefully step over them. You must be reading about Boston.
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thanks for your comment and info. I would love to have the name of your wood window restoration friend. would you private message me? please?
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thanks for your comment and info. I would love to have the name of your wood window restoration friend. would you private message me? please?
You need at least 10 or so posts to do that.
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