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sannitig 10-28-2012 10:20 PM

threshold or quarter round first?
 
Hey guys I am finishing the kitchen Reno and the kitchen tile floor is about a quarter inch higher than the hardwoods.

So I need some sort of threshold piece, I think the sell them at home depot.

Should I lay the baseboards, 1/4 round then set the threshold piece in?

Or should I lay the baseboards, THEN set the threshold piece in and then lay the 1/4 on top?

The second way I would have to cut angles in the 1/4 round, I'm not sure the first way would make sense....

DannyT 10-28-2012 11:01 PM

pictures would help to understand clearly

joecaption 10-28-2012 11:02 PM

Can you post a picture?

woodworkbykirk 10-29-2012 10:26 AM

make a threshhold out of hardwood thats a steep angle that runs up to the tile

sannitig 10-29-2012 11:25 AM

Yup thanks but which order do I place the 1/4 round and the threshold down?

BigJim 10-29-2012 11:38 AM

Install the threshold and then the 1/4 round or shoe mold. One side of the shoe or 1/4 round will be higher as you know, if you want to get creative, rip the difference of the floor heights off the bottom of the molding, install and cut the threshold to fit the 1/4 round.

funfool 10-29-2012 11:42 AM

Is there trim around the entryway? Baseboard would butt the trim and not matter which goes first.
Question is, how will you end the baseboard, or will it just wrap around and continue into next room?

sannitig 10-29-2012 11:57 AM

to answer both questions at once I'm probably going to use a plinth that wraps 2 inches on each side of the wall.

As for the shoe I was thinking cut it at an angle going over the threshold

sannitig 10-29-2012 12:00 PM

there is no trim around the entry and I was planning on ripping the plinth to go over the tiles....

I'm starting to wonder if I even need to shoe around the plinth.... placing a shoe would complicate things more because the finished side already has a different shoe than I'm planning to use on the Reno side.... I would probably have to rip up the shoe on the finish side

funfool 10-29-2012 12:30 PM

Good chance adding the 1/4 round would look to busy.
If I understand correctly, would be the plinth, threshold, then look at the 1/4 round and see if you want it.
If the baseboard butts and stops at the plinth, may want to end the 1/4 there also.

Old carpenter here, I had to google plinth just to see what it was. :laughing:
Never heard of it before, we learn something new everyday.

notmrjohn 10-29-2012 12:34 PM

Flooring store has transition pieces for just such cases, that'd be your "threshold." Or make your own as kirk said. Wide side should butt against tile. If tile edge is not as straight as you wanted it, you may have to use thicker strip that over laps it.
Just to make sure, you know base shoe and quarter round are different things with different profiles?

Generally speaking you start at bottom and work your way up, so transition strip first. Cut molding and trim to fit over it.

Without seeing exactly what you got there, I'd say plinth or corner block idea is good. Trying to match dissimilar profiles at joints can be tricky. Bit easier on inside corner, cope wider or taller to fit over smaller. A pic from you would explain situation, a pic from me would explain my coping with junction.

woodworkbykirk 10-29-2012 03:09 PM

more often than not buying premade thresholds dont work for the situation.. as they arent hte correct measurement.. also when there is new hardwood going in its better to use scraps or left over wood so you have something that matches what the floor is

BigJim 10-29-2012 03:24 PM

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I hope I didn't mislead someone to think I was calling 1/4 round shoe mold because it isn't the same thing but some people will confuse them for the same thing. Is what you are trying to do like this or something else. Notice the base and 1/4 round (not shoe mold here) is ripped down to make the transition and not make that the focal point.

hand drive 10-30-2012 09:50 AM

for that situation I sometimes use the threshold laid flat to the hardwoods and notch the 1/4" out of the underside to allow it to go over the higher floor elevation(tile), it does not need to lap over much. a little construction adhesive during install to tighten up the voids and it is good to go.
a pre made threshold will slide through the tablesaw to take out the 1/4" just as easily as a threshold made on site.

sannitig 10-30-2012 10:08 AM

I think I posted some pictures already. I will be placing the transition piece last (someguys say place first and some place last). This way I have time to figure what exactly I want to do here

It's in a doorway (with no casing or trim, just drywall). I have decided that the shoe will not look good on the plinth portion (thanks for the tip).

***Important***

I was unable find plinth as I thought plinth was sold in linear feet, not just a 4" x 8" tall block or what have you like the local home depot, so I think I may have to make my own plinth to place in the doorway and 3" around each side of wall.

I have purchased an 8' length of 3.5" x 3/4" mdf whiteboard and an 8' length of 4.5" x 3/4" mdf white trim/baseboaseboard. I am thinking of stacking them and laminte with PL to make my 8" x 3/4" "plinth". That way I can cut however many inches wide the doorway is :)

Only propblem I can think of is what to fill the joined part with to make it fully flush and unnoticeable.

And is MDF good enough or should I be using something like poplar instead for both pieces??

if need pics I can send.


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