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amakarevic 06-13-2013 01:09 PM

Stair tread and riser assembly
 
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When assembling stair treads and risers, is it better to have the tread tucked under the riser or have the riser tucked in between the tread and the stringer riser backing? I am inclined to think the former because that way the tread gets more framing support but the way my current stairs are assembled is the latter, hence my uncertainty. See picture.

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kwikfishron 06-13-2013 02:03 PM

You install the risers first and then the treads.

amakarevic 06-13-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kwikfishron (Post 1200544)
You install the risers first and then the treads.

That's the way the old ones are. Thanks

Willie T 06-13-2013 02:19 PM

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And you also go behind the risers, and give extra attachment and support to the treads in the form of glue and screws through the risers into the back edge of the tread.

Treads are only providing support of a measly 1-1/2", or so... however thick they are. This is not much.

The risers, on the other hand are installed like floor joists are installed, on edge, giving you about 7" of very solid support all across under the front edges of the treads. It makes equally good sense to support the back edges of these relatively thin treads by fastening them into the bottom of the risers.

I even dado the bottom edge of the risers for this express purpose... as shown in these drawings.

joecaption 06-13-2013 02:27 PM

Look closer, sure looks like his are already datoed with just a slot for the tread to slide into.

Willie T 06-13-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1200556)
Look closer, sure looks like his are already datoed with just a slot for the tread to slide into.

Yeah, maybe. I can't really tell. If so, then he already knew the answer to his question before posting.

titanjt 06-26-2013 11:14 AM

Risers first then treads. Dadoed is definitely better but not absolutely necessary. Screws are also best but 2 1/2" ring shank nails work great also and are faster. Just make sure that you apply construction adhesive to all wood to wood surfaces.
1. Back of Tread to Riser (dadoed or not)
2. Top of Riser to bottom of Tread
3. Both tread and riser to the stringers.
This will insure that the treads are secure and that they will not squeak.

Willie T 06-26-2013 12:49 PM

T is right. Don't be cheap with the adhesive... load it up.

Keith Mathewson 06-26-2013 06:40 PM

Wait, nobody has an opinion about the dovetailed balusters?

Willie T 06-26-2013 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Mathewson (Post 1207665)
Wait, nobody has an opinion about the dovetailed balusters?

Well, I guess it's kind of an interesting detail.......

Keith Mathewson 06-27-2013 07:40 PM

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It is interesting, but only because almost nobody does it this way anymore. Balusters which have been dovetailed add a tremendous amount of strength to the handrail.

kwikfishron 06-27-2013 07:57 PM

That stringer is a beautiful piece of wood.

oh'mike 06-28-2013 05:26 AM

I place stair masters at the top of the wood working trade----L love the dovetailed balusters.

Willie T 06-28-2013 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 1208308)
I place stair masters at the top of the wood working trade----L love the dovetailed balusters.

I tried one at the gym, and it really was a good machine.

oh'mike 06-30-2013 06:44 AM

Ho Ho Ho---Willie, To build a properly functioning stair is a challenge---to make that look like a work of art? That makes them a Master and always someone who will have my admiration----


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