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02-10-2009, 02:38 PM   #1
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## stair template HELP ME PLEASE

hi folks. I have a dilema.My dad is building stairs for my home at the age of 78. God love em. Anyway he has a rockwell 521 template but has lost the instructions for laying it out and using. He has used in many times over the years but recently is forgetting things. I have searched everywhere to find a copy of the instructions.If there is any one out there who can help me I would greatly appreciate it. If some one has them and can copy I would gladly purchase them for my dad. He really wants to get these stairs built.I offered to purchase him a new template but he said you don't buy things like that at his age. Please help me.

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02-10-2009, 03:17 PM   #2
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manuals can be a real pain to try to find online, i know. i did find this though, it may help.

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The old one looks identical in function to contributor A’s. The only hard part is setting the bottom section so that the shims for both the risers and treads are the same angle. Then both tread and riser shims can all be cut at the same angle. What I did was draw the first tread/riser with a framing square and set up the jig to it - using the two adjustable stops at the top. Then I ran a square line down to the "V" in the little pointer from the top of the stringer.

Next, I calculated the hypotenuse of the rise and run using the Pythagorean theorem, entered that into memory on a calculator, and went up the stringer adding one hypotenuse each time, and squaring down from it with a framing square. All you have to do is slide up the jig till the square line hits the center of the "V" in the pointer and then clamp and rout. The beauty of this is that you get no cumulative error, and the high end \$10 calculators run the numbers to 11 places. That's really all there is to it.

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Thanks guys! Responses like yours are always welcome - it's good to know that people are still truly interested in what we do. I've been using my jig for quite some time, and first used one 20+ years ago. I got mine when a fellow that I subbed from was semi-retiring and selling his extra equipment- he had three. Setting the drive wedge angle is the tough part. To use the jig, I layout the rise/run for two treads on the nosing line and set a pair of dividers to the line length, then the mark out the rest of the stringer, squaring the intersection to the edge to align the indicator for the cut. I wanted the manual because they often had other info about what the tools could do, and I like to have them.

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02-25-2009, 07:16 PM   #3
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## i hope you found the way how to use this jig,

by the way do you know if your dad is interested in sellin this jig the rockwell 521 I do stairs for a living, i have one custom made but i wanna get the rockwell 521 this one is no longer available

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02-25-2009, 10:32 PM   #4
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 Originally Posted by 01stairguy by the way do you know if your dad is interested in sellin this jig the rockwell 521 I do stairs for a living, i have one custom made but i wanna get the rockwell 521 this one is no longer available

 02-26-2009, 05:02 AM #5 the Musigician     Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 10,404 Rewards Points: 2,000 still think we need a section for buying/selling tools here..... from each other, not spammers. DM __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Click here to see some of my original magic tricks and trick boxes!
 02-26-2009, 06:07 AM #6 Member   Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 3,118 Rewards Points: 2,000 A basic framing square and some inexpensive stops that clamp to the square have served me well for years. Just set the stops on your rise and run and start marking it off on a 2x12. Last edited by Just Bill; 02-26-2009 at 06:09 AM.
02-26-2009, 07:40 AM   #7
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 Originally Posted by DangerMouse still think we need a section for buying/selling tools here..... from each other, not spammers. DM
Not happening...Its a moderation nightmare and has been discussed at length.

 02-26-2009, 08:16 AM #8 the Musigician     Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 10,404 Rewards Points: 2,000 fair enough.... i suppose if anyone needed something bad enough, they'd just ask for a PM reply from anyone having it. still would like to see live chat, either a room, or 1 on 1. DM __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Click here to see some of my original magic tricks and trick boxes!
 02-26-2009, 08:46 AM #9 Registered User     Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6,520 Rewards Points: 2,000 That's why we have a site suggestions subforum DM!
 02-26-2009, 08:55 AM #10 the Musigician     Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 10,404 Rewards Points: 2,000 been there, did that.... nathan said he tried it before and no-one ever seems to be in the room at the same time or something. perhaps a popup javascript 1on1 chat window would work? it'd save ME a lot of time, being dialup and all...... DM __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Click here to see some of my original magic tricks and trick boxes!
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