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flooringjoe 03-09-2011 01:53 PM

Stair Question..
 
I do floors, and my carpenter will not go out for 1 tread so I am stuck with doing this myself.

Should I just take out that piece of plywood and put drywall in? Maybe compound and sand it down? Or should I add a riser to the top? What would make this look best? There use to be carpet there but we ripped it off.

Thanks very much!

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DangerMouse 03-09-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by flooringjoe (Post 606032)
What would make this look best?

If it were me, I'd finish it off flush with the wall with either mud or drywall and mud, then go get a brass kick-plate for a 36" door to square off on the flat of the front to protect the drywall/compound/paint from scuffing from toes.

I think it'd look fine and match the gold tone threshold trim piece shown too.

DM

DangerMouse 03-09-2011 02:13 PM

Oh, but do not replace that plywood with drywall.... too easy for someone to kick a hole in it.

DM

rubberhead 03-10-2011 12:13 AM

Yeah drywall is a bad idea. If you can easily remove the plywood, you could use liner material for a riser. Keep it proud of the drywall by a 1/4 and back bevel it for some detail and a caulking edge. Also, what's going on with the tread/rise ratio, something isn't right there. Looks like a 9 inch tread and 8 1/2 inch rise. :eek:

flooringjoe 03-10-2011 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DangerMouse (Post 606046)
Oh, but do not replace that plywood with drywall.... too easy for someone to kick a hole in it.

DM

Thank you DM, I will consider everything you have said.

rubberhead 03-10-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DangerMouse (Post 606045)
If it were me, I'd finish it off flush with the wall with either mud or drywall and mud, then go get a brass kick-plate for a 36" door to square off on the flat of the front to protect the drywall/compound/paint from scuffing from toes.

I think it'd look fine and match the gold tone threshold trim piece shown too.

DM


Brass? :huh: It's 2011!

flooringjoe 03-10-2011 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rubberhead (Post 606422)
Brass? :huh: It's 2011!

Thank you too Rubberhead, I didn't see your post for some reason. Definitely good idea's here

flooringjoe 03-10-2011 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rubberhead (Post 606420)
Yeah drywall is a bad idea. If you can easily remove the plywood, you could use liner material for a riser. Keep it proud of the drywall by a 1/4 and back bevel it for some detail and a caulking edge. Also, what's going on with the tread/rise ratio, something isn't right there. Looks like a 9 inch tread and 8 1/2 inch rise. :eek:

The first picture is before I cut off the sides and nose of the plywood that was on. I bought a separate red oak tread and I planned on mitering the bottom risers to make a nice fit, I'm just having problem deciding if that should be the way to go because the top part is looking strange.. I can't think of much ways to make it appealing. I thought about putting a red oak riser on the top and putting a little decorative mold on each side so it won't look so weird but I don't think that will look too nice either.

tcleve4911 03-10-2011 06:33 AM

Hello Joe
The problem as I see it is the transition between the linoleum floor and the step.
I would consider building out both risers about 2-3 inches.
Make the top riser 3/4" lower than the lino.
Install an oak tread on the first step and a 2-3" nose on top of the second riser flush with the linoleum.
This will give you the look of two steps vs just one looking like a box set on top of your oak floor.
I know this is more work but the end result will not look like an after thought and much more like a two step transition.

Just my 2

DangerMouse 03-10-2011 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rubberhead (Post 606422)
Brass? :huh: It's 2011!

What's wrong with brass????

Unless it's the fact it's part copper and costs about the same as gold?

DM

Willie T 03-10-2011 11:29 AM

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One thing I would definitely do (besides making sure you are in the legal size ranges on riser and tread... It is WAY not deep enough.) is to make that step six more inches wider on each side. People have a tendency to begin their turn before touching their foot to the tread when it sticks out from the wall like that. BTW that kind of step is called a swell step, and it is almost always larger than the rest.

This is not a joke. You are creating a fall hazard, and it could even be illegal if there is no handrail extending out that far also. That part would depend upon local codes....... but you will sure find out if someone gets hurt on it.

Below, is an idea of safer stairs............ although there should have also been a handrail on that left side..... AND both sides going on down the lower stairs. Unfortunately, most codes don't require that.

BTY, that handrail is probably not to code.................. and that piece of 'baseboard' kickboard sticking up is kind of dumb. For one thing, it is low enough that the sole of a shoe can catch the top of it. Not smart.

Are you noticing that those lower three steps appear to be deeper than any of the others? They may not be but if they were this would be a very good idea, especially with no handrail on the left.

I'd say this is a drawing still in progress.

flooringjoe 03-10-2011 11:35 PM

Thank you to everyone that has answered! This forum has been very very helpful and I am thankful for all of the answers.

I look forward to being a member with this forum and if anyone has any questions about hardwood floors and ceramic tile, please feel free to message me!

Thanks to everyone once again!

shark722 03-11-2011 01:54 AM

considering that your not trying to match any hardwood floor in the area, just put a 2x10 on top and call it good.

rditz 03-11-2011 09:04 AM

Joe,

what I would do is measure the entire height from the floor and the upper level. divide that by 2 and that will be the top of your step (hopefully a comfortable step height). frame your bottom step so that after your tread, you achieve the finished height. as far as facing, i would check out some veneer plywood (finished 1 side). this stuff is very reasonably priced and is only 1/8"-1/4" thick. it will stain up and match your tread.

please post pics when you've completed this.

rod

gavinol 03-11-2011 10:07 AM

I need to make a flight of stairs which are not a simple rectangular shape. It needs to be a trapezoid.

http://www.argo.net.au/philipad/junk/stair.gif

I was hoping I could just split them like splitting a slab, or trim to a wall, but they just don't work. There has to be a way to create a stair that is like this, or atleast a way to trim it down to such a shape!?

I dunno about this Archicad program


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