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markronz 03-04-2010 09:29 AM

Staining Wood - When to use wood filler
 
Hello, sorry if this is the wrong channel for this question. I thought Carpentry was sort of close since my question has to do with working with wood.

Anyway, just a small question. I just stained some pine wood car siding in my basement. Soon I am going to coat it with that Polyeurothane stuff (however you spell it). I have recessed all of my nails and bought some wood filler to put in the holes.

So my question is do I put the wood filler into the holes BEFORE I use the Polyeurothane? Or AFTER I've finished applying my 2 or 3 coats of Polyeurothane?

Thanks!

Jay123 03-04-2010 11:52 AM

You could go either way...use a filler before finishing (which will be sand-able and stain-able) or use the colored wax fillers after poly.

I prefer to use the colored filler after stain/poly on interior finish work.

It comes in quite a few colors and you're more apt to be able to blend it in with your woodwork easier...the stain-able filler always seems to take the stain differently than your work and shows more...at least in my experience.

http://www.minwax.com/products/wood_...ood_putty.html

Jay123 03-04-2010 11:53 AM

I've got about 10-12 different colors...and they can be blended to make more colors. :yes:

markronz 03-04-2010 12:01 PM

Excellent, thanks! I believe the filler I was looking at (haven't bought yet) is the same stuff you have linked. So I will do that after poly then.

Thanks!

Jay123 03-04-2010 12:05 PM

You're welcome. I'd pick up a few colors close to your finished stain/poly color...1 as close as possible, 1 lighter, 1 darker, etc....you'll have different shades in your finished woodwork, so 1 color won't do it for all areas.

Also, stain some scrap using the same process as your woodwork and take the sample(s) with you to pick out your filler colors.

J

<*(((>< 03-04-2010 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay123 (Post 409427)
You could go either way...use a filler before finishing (which will be sand-able and stain-able) or use the colored wax fillers after poly.

I prefer to use the colored filler after stain/poly on interior finish work.

It comes in quite a few colors and you're more apt to be able to blend it in with your woodwork easier...the stain-able filler always seems to take the stain differently than your work and shows more...at least in my experience.

http://www.minwax.com/products/wood_...ood_putty.html

x2, just finished our entertainment center and the "stainable" filler from PL left noticeable marks that are shades different. Not too terrible but noticeable, and unacceptable in my opinion.

So, I would suggest (and I am going to do the same in the future) what others are suggesting and buying several different colors and blend them together to make a close match to your wood and stain.

tpolk 03-04-2010 05:28 PM

used to take plain filler and use the unmixed pigment at the bottom of the stain can to work up a mix to match stain

Ron6519 03-04-2010 08:07 PM

There's no reason to use wood filler as it creates many more issues then it solves. You don't mention any stain in this process, but it doesn't really matter. After the polyurethane process is completed, you can use the Minwax crayon sticks to fill the holes. Wipe off the excess with a rag dampened with mineral spirits. If you pick the closest color, it should make the holes disappear.
Ron

Jay123 03-04-2010 08:15 PM

I think the sticks you're talking about are the same stuff I linked Ron, just different form.


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