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Old 06-25-2009, 10:32 PM   #46
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Yay! It worked! Thanks DM. I was pushing the handle down as if I was cutting a 90* angle instead of a 45.

After trying a lot of cuts on a piece of scrap wood, it got a little more accurate each time.

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Old 06-25-2009, 11:54 PM   #47
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GMA,

This was a HOOT to read through! You guys are a kick!

Here is another suggestion for you and I second the firestorm quality DM however GMA I am not sure what you are cutting but that blade you have in the saw now is a blade intended to cut wood like framing and other boards that do not require a precise cut. it has a couple teeth instead of a lot of teeth so to speak. Remember the more teeth on the blade the finer the cut.

If you are going to be doing woodworking projects or finish work invest in a good fine tooth blade like a Freud for instance. If the finish product matters then the tools you use should too.

I know money does not grow on trees but remember the more you pay the more fun it is to play!

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Old 06-26-2009, 12:39 AM   #48
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maybe your saw is leaning forward (the front is lower than the back) relative to the base.
Bah, so close to winning this one too! You and your clever problem-solving, DM!

For some reason I don't think my Rigid saw would bend like that if I pushed it at an off angle... The B&D stuff is .. ahem .. cough ..

(I say that as an owner of a couple of B&D yard tools. Can't beat the price).
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Old 06-26-2009, 05:15 AM   #49
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ya might want to invest in a new blade as well, by the looks of the cuts it will make your life much easier...
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I agree about the blade. The edges do look 'choppy' with the little pieces missing here and there.

Thank you DM and thanks everyone else for your help. I really appreciate it.

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I second the firestorm quality DM
huh? i never said anything about firestorm quality, or did i?
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the more teeth on the blade the finer the cut.
and yup, invest in a good fine tooth blade for projects that require smoother cuts, but remember to let the saw do the work and cut slowly.

if that blade needs sharpening, send it to me and i'll sharpen it for you for free. Po)

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Does it matter what brand the blade is, or do I need to find the Firestorm brand?
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Looking at the picture of the board you posted it looks like you need to joint the board. Most boards you buy from home centers are not jointed or planed properly. I would also verify that your blade is true, I have seen many a low end blade warped right out of the packaging. Also you can try ordering a larger arbor washer for your saw, this will cut down some of the blade wobble that causes those wavy looking cuts. If you are going to do a lot of projects I would recommend you retire the firestorm to rough carpentry projects and purchase a 12" high quality miter saw. I personally favor Dewalt and Rigid however Bosch, Makita, and Milwaukee have some great saws also. Try them out if you can before you buy.
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GMA,

I totally agree with ARI1 and I use a Bosch 10" dual bevel sliding compound. I also own a DeWalt 12" compound sliding and I had the DeWalt first. I like the De Walt but I LOVE the Bosch. The Bosch has the controls up front and has its own stand that folds up and it fits into a cubby in my enclosed trailer. It is one of the finest saws I have ever used and soooo convenient. It is about $600 so not small beans by comparison to the firestorm line but well worth the money!

The reason I talk about the 10" is the 12" has inherent advantages as far as cutting thickness and large dimension such as cutting 1 x 10 versus 1 x 12 for instance. So if you are cutting extra wide or thick stock you would want to purchase a 12" however if you are just doing trim and other 1 x 6 or 8 the 10" would serve you well. Also with a 10" blade you tend to get less threat of blade wobble and/ warp age however spending a little more can also solve that problem. Also buying a better blade will afford you the opportunity to get a couple sharpening out of the blade instead of buying a new one every time. A sharpening can save you anywhere from 20 - 50 dollars off the price of a new blade!

As far as blades go Freud, Everlast, Oldham are all great blades but think that you will find Freud to be top of the game.

Good luck and if you need any further advice come on back and post!
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Thanks Paragon and ARI. I should have known not to buy it when I saw the $99 price tag and the name I didn't recognize.

Unfortunately, I can't totally place the blame on the saw when I was just pushing it down the wrong way.

But, I've used my brother's DeWalt compound miter saw quite a few times and never had that problem. Not even once. So it must be that this saw has a weak point and moves the wrong way a little bit when pressure is applied.

That, or I'm just getting stronger as I age.

I am going to buy a blade with smaller teeth today. This is a two-hour job and I've managed to spend at least 4 evenings on it. If I don't finish it tonight, I'm going to have to fire myself. LOL.
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remove the one you have in it and take it with you to match the arbor hole.
or make a template of the hole on a piece of paper and be sure they match.

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Good idea! With all the saw blades hanging on the wall at the store, it would have been hard to know which one to buy.

Thanks a lot!
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they probably see you coming and think "oh geeze, another woman coming to ask me dumb questions i have no idea how to answer..."
so just breeze on by them and go get the blade(s) you need....lol and IF you have to ask, at least you're prepared!

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The new blade works great, it doesn't shred the edges like the other one did. It has 60 teeth. (Imagine that dentist bill. LOL)

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The problem isn't that it's a Black & Decker. The problem is that it's a Fire Storm that cost all of $99. Even a B&D would have been a step up I think.
Well......it seems that Firestorm IS made by B&D. Had I taken the time to read the box it came in or the front of the manual/directions, I might have known that.

DM, book4 - page 043...
Tool dept. employees as they see me walking into their dept.: *looking at their watches* "Oh gosh, just look at the time! We should go on break... now!" Just kidding, the employees at Lowe's are always very helpful

I got one made by DeWalt. I think it was around $37. I couldn't believe there were blades for over $54. The 12" blades were more than that. Yikes. With so many to choose from, I was glad I brought the old blade with me.

Here's a new picture of some scrap pieces of cedar I cut with the new blade and being careful to not push down the wrong way on the handle. The 4 pieces are held together with a rubber band in the picture, just to show the way the angles worked out.
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nice work. good to see that even a inexpensive tool can do a good job when set up and used properly.

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