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Old 02-12-2011, 11:06 PM   #1
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Howdy All,

NewB here. I just baught a house and am taking on the largest home improvement project in my life.

The County shows the house was built in 2004. As you can see in the pix, it was not completed.

I'm looking for some advice to complete the stair railings and fire place surround & harth

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The posts, rails and spindles are in the basement. What is lacking are the holes to put the pieces together.

We need to complete these items and a few others to get perminent financing.

The existing spindles are on 12" centers and have 9" openings between the spindles. Is this small enough to satisfy current requirements? I forgot to measure the height of the railing but it is proprably around 3 1/2' high.

Any advice would be appreciated.



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Old 02-12-2011, 11:14 PM   #2
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Hey, there's a tree in your living room.


Not real sure what you are looking for. Drilling holes isn't tough but I'm betting you are looking for something more than how to drill a hole. Can you expand on your inquiry a bit?

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the fire place is a Thermolator Titan gas log

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Sorry if this is not clear & concice, it has been a long day.

I guess the first thing I'm looking for are guidelines as to what height is required for the railing and if the existing railing spindle spacing is adequate.

I have a drill press and already have some ideas as to how to jig the posts and rails to drill them. The spindles are already manufactured and stockpiled in the basement.

If someone knows of a resource I could look at for instruction on this kind of construction, it would be appreciated.

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now that's a question that can be answered...not by me cuz it's not my thing (I'm an electrician) but there are several regulars that can surely help. It's late so I wouldn't expect too much tonight though.
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Most codes like the IBC and the IRC call out for space between balusters that will NOT allow a 4" sphere to pass through.

Between 38"-42" high guards (stair rail) will be good.

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The guardrail's ballusters must prevent passage of a 4" sphere. That is code pretty much everywhere (international residential code). Guardrails must be 36" high except on the stairs (non-horizontal) where it can be as low as 34" since it may also serve as a handrail.

Take a look at the visual interpretation of the IRC stair code, which is a free .pdf download on this page: www.stairways.org. It is an incredibly helpful resource.
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Ah your right, I had a brain fart.

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Your questions are very difficult to answer in a way that will give you all the info needed for you to move with confidence. I suggest you request an on site meeting with your building inspector for the purpose of compiling a list of items you need to acquire a certificate of occupancy. The building dept should be happy to accommodate you. This will also help you get the inspector on your side. Let him be the expert.

Log railings along a stair are not legal all by themselves. They don't have the grab-ability required. When I built this house I had some stock handrail and brackets sitting on the stairs as if I were about to mount them along side the log rail when the inspector showed up for the final inspection. He asked me to promise that I install the as he winked. Got the final without the screw holes in the logs.

If spindle spacing was a problem I would consider zip tying some chain link fence to the rail.

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I'd place the top of the handrail 36" vertical above the finish step....that meets code.

The bottom of the bottom rail should be no more than 6" above the finished step.

The girls are right on the balluster placement, if the spindles are round and decorative, then they must be spaced so that a 4" sphere must not fit through ANY part of the spindle...not just at the bottom "square" part.

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these details should be on the prints that were supplied to and approved by your building dept,they must have them avalible
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If spindle spacing was a problem I would consider zip tying some chain link fence to the rail.
The scary thing is that there might actually be a building inspector somewhere out there with such compromised ethics that they would actually buy that. This made me laugh out loud, thanks!

(personally I'd strongly advise against ever considering anything like this as an option)
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The bottom of the bottom rail should be no more than 6" above the finished step

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I think this should read "a 6" sphere should not be able to pass between the tread and the bottom rail at any point"
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I don't think so, because a normal riser height is 7 1/4", a 6" sphere will fit through the opening even if you put the bottom rail right on the nose of each step...now you have me thinking though, thanks alot...haha
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I don't think so, because a normal riser height is 7 1/4", a 6" sphere will fit through the opening even if you put the bottom rail right on the nose of each step...now you have me thinking though, thanks alot...haha
Thats what I've always thought, but now YOU'VE put doubt in MY mind!

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