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Old 12-05-2008, 10:39 PM   #16
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Thanks folks for the compliment and agreement :} Only been trimmin fer bouts 20 + yrs
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At first learning to cope will take longer, however once a person "get the hang " of it I really think it is faster no matter what the job, than mitering.
even double ended runs faster coping, pick a number add about 1/8, cope, pull middle pop corners and snap middle in and done and everything is tight. you would still be measuring and marking if you would be mitering. When I started I did all miters within a yr or less it was all cope. We did miles of condo,townhouses,developments, spot bild customs. I think it is just the way somone develops his or her work methods. Am I making sense? Didnt think so ROFLMAO

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Old 12-06-2008, 05:17 AM   #17
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I agree with Skymaster! I found that to be the faster way for me also. with wider trim I use the miter saw for the straight cuts and when the blade gets near the profile then the couping saw gets used to finish the miter. once this method gets adapted it goes fast. BOB
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:57 AM   #18
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I've been working for a production builder for some time, and sadly, quality isn't the biggest concern. But I've found that if you are going to miter the inside corners, just simply cutting both sides at a 44 degree angle almost always works. But only if you are painting, cause when you caulk to top of the base what little gap there might be on the backside of the miter, is very easily filled. And most of the time the joints are perfect since the front side of the base always meets. And outside corners I pretty much always just cut both sides at a 45 1/2 degree, and when that doesn't work, adjust from there, which usually isn't much more than a half degree either way. But just look at your outside corners, and you should be able to tell if and how out of whack the 90 might be.
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:44 AM   #19
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I would disagree. I think coping is still faster due to the fact your measurement does not have to be exact. Where as for a mitered inside corner it needs to be exact for it to look kinda decent. Just my opinion.
You can dissagree. It is your right. I'm sure that you are basing this on your personal opinion.

My statements, however are based on facts.

My own workers, subs, and others have had this debate in the past.

Over the years we have laid thousands upon thousands of Baseboard. I have put multiple skilled-carpentry crews, teams, and single individuals on painted baseboard installations, and actually watched the clock/timed/compared the how long it takes them.

Example: There are times where we are called in to do insurance repairs. Part of the process may be to install baseboard on 20 - 80 identical apt units. (the work has to be done asap).
So, I have been able to compare apples to apples. I have had the same individuals cope and miter the same style units. Mitering has always beat their coping time. I have pitted the same-skill level workers also, to cope and to miter on the same style units...
you guessed it, the miter cutters always were quicker.

So, as stated, you have the right to your opinion, based on what you think, but I state my points on actual facts.

Again, this is on quicker, painted, mid level quality work, that doesn't need, nor require, detailed fine finished carpentry.
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Old 12-06-2008, 10:28 AM   #20
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You can dissagree. It is your right. I'm sure that you are basing this on your personal opinion.

My statements, however are based on facts.

My own workers, subs, and others have had this debate in the past.

Over the years we have laid thousands upon thousands of Baseboard. I have put multiple skilled-carpentry crews, teams, and single individuals on painted baseboard installations, and actually watched the clock/timed/compared the how long it takes them.

Example: There are times where we are called in to do insurance repairs. Part of the process may be to install baseboard on 20 - 80 identical apt units. (the work has to be done asap).
So, I have been able to compare apples to apples. I have had the same individuals cope and miter the same style units. Mitering has always beat their coping time. I have pitted the same-skill level workers also, to cope and to miter on the same style units...
you guessed it, the miter cutters always were quicker.

So, as stated, you have the right to your opinion, based on what you think, but I state my points on actual facts.

Again, this is on quicker, painted, mid level quality work, that doesn't need, nor require, detailed fine finished carpentry.
Woah! Didn't mean to get you all huffy! But my statement is based on fact also! Don't begin to think your the only one who has run thousands of feet of base! Being a mod I would have expected a better response from a fellow carpenter with years in the trade. I was not saying you were wrong I was just saying for me and mine it is faster to cope! This is based on my facts! Sorry! I didn't mean to step on your toes!
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I would love to learn how to cope. I've tried and tried and it just comes out looking like crap. So I've gotten really good at all mitered corners. Any suggestions on how to learn coping skills? (Well, I guess that's another topic altogether now, huh?)
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tmpyankee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Watch you doin livin where I wanna move to?. Been to FM several times, deal with a Relator right in town, got a friend who lives bouts mile or so past the big CVC I think it is, :}:}
Coping isnt that hard, first make shure you have the teeth set for PULL cut, IE towards you. Make a mitercut, then using the top profile edge as the guide just backcut it, make the length about 1/8 long if you are cutting one long pc. Other wise cope the corner let it run wild over the casing, smack the butt end, drive the coped end into the other pc, mark it, cut it, pop it in place and WALLAH done, perfection. :}:}:}
You gonna make me drive down there and show ya?????? ROFLMAO I think I have almost residency status in the Super 8 in Rock Hill :}:}:}:}
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