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Old 01-12-2011, 07:54 AM   #16
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typically the setting blocks are neoprene,but the plastic ones you got should work fine

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Old 01-12-2011, 08:08 AM   #17
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I wonder if they have given the OP shims. "Clear plastic and thin like a dime" sound like shims for holding glass panes tight to the frame. I've seen them used to keep mirrors from rattling in a wood frame.

If they are not "squishy" they will not work.

I am still not sold on the idea. I know that cabinet makers use "Spaceballs" around the wood panel in a cabinet door to keep the panel from rattling due to seasonal contractions in the wood but this seems like the wrong application in this situation for several reasons.

1. The glass will be sitting on top of the wooden sill where very little seasonal fluctuation should occur (across the grain)

2. Any minor seasonal fluctuation in wood dimension should occur fairly uniformly across the length of the sill, reducing the chance of creating pressure points.

3. Adding a rubber spacer between the glass and the sill will create pressure points, especially if it is inflexible plastic.

Again I prefer the original install details as the glass seems to have lasted a number of years. Were there any sort of rubber spacers present between the glass and the rotted sill when you started?


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Old 01-12-2011, 10:51 AM   #18
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Those sound too thin for the glass size you have. The thicker plastic cabinet bumpers would be better. I'd put them every 3" and cover them with a 100% silcone caulk.
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:38 PM   #19
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Well I think my only option will be to try different versions of this and see how the glass feels on top of them. It stopped snowing so I'm hoping I'll be able to shave the sill down tomorrow. I feel like the window is getting stressed and I shouldn't wait for drier day. I'll post pics when I'm done.

Quick question if anyone sees this. The stores around me don't have the pocket system I wanted. Rather than wasting anymore time shopping right now I am going to need to put a couple of screws to the sill peice to secure it to the window frame until I get the pocket system. I don't want to mess up the sill I made. Can I pre-drill pressure treated wood? I'm thinking I read somewhere where you shouldn't but can't remember now.

And thanks everyone for all your help.
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Never heard of not pre-drilling PT wood.

Make sure you use galvanized or stainless steel screws in PT or they will get eaten by the chemicals in the wood in a few years.

If you have a countersink bit, you could set them below the surface of the sill and caulk or putty them in prior to touchup paint
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I see no reason not to predrill the sill. Fill the holes with an exterior rated filler. If you can cap it with aluminum and seal it, it won't move as much with the seasons.
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Rosemonster, I think you've probably heard you SHOULD pre-drill pt lumber as it will split if you don't
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Thanks, I'll pre-drill. Now it's gonna snow some tonight so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for tomorrow.
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Hi Everyone,

I got the sill screwed in. My screws were too long, so the ones I used for now are just to hold it to test the glass. CP Devil Dog was right in that all the spacers are putting pressure on the glass. There isn't any without it. If I used rubber, it would need to run the whole length.

I stupidly opened my epoxy and wood glue yesterday only to realize I can't figure out how to orchestrate it. The glass is not that wide and hangs lower than the interior sill (which it shouldn't) leaving huge gaps. I want to fill these gaps with epoxy since they really should be wood. I want to use a exterior glue to secure the sill when I nail it in and I also need to get a bead of silicon under the window glass, I think.

1. First off, what is the right silicon to use under the glass. Should I use exterior caulking type or should it be the stuff for aquariums or some kind of other stuff for under glass? Or should I only use glazing putty?
2. Can I squeeze the silicon under glass after I secure the sill or does it have to be done at same time? There will be a slither of space under the glass to be able to do it after.
3. Can I put the exterior glue where wood touches wood and put the wood epoxy (flex-tec hv) where the gaps under the sill are open and screw it in or should I screw it in with the glue, let that dry and try and get the epoxy in after?

The glue has 10 minutes work time and the epoxy 20 minutes.

Here are pics of how the sill is now. Any advice?

http://picasaweb.google.com/11032697...NailedTheSill#
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Ahhh, the sill is in. I managed to use the glue and epoxy and get it all screwed in. It feels very, very strong. I did the glazing on the outside of glass. I'm giving it a few more days to make sure it's all dry before I glaze the inside.

Come spring, I'll need to strip the window down again to finish the rest of the repairs I started on it, but the sill is done. I don't think this window will ever leak again and now it's nice and warm to stand near.

I wanted to thank you all for your helping me. I was in quite a bind with this this window, not once but twice, and you got me out of it each time. It would have really hurt to give up on this window since it was hand made by a carpenter many, many years ago. Now that it is leak free, it gives me the time to learn to restore it. I'll post a pic when I get it completed this summer. Thanks so much again.
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You're welcome.

Thank you for letting us know how it went. Looking forward to the pics

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