Replace/Repair Door Jamb? - Page 2 - DIY Chatroom

tigerbalm2424 · 03-17-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fhivinylwindows

Tiger, some prehungs with sidelights are 3 units that are stapled together and some are actually built with as one unit. I would need to know how yours was built in order to answer. Is your sill one long piece or does it have seams at the sidelights?

I believe mine is stapled together. See Pic. This pic shows just above the door handle.

Note that this unit has two sidelites and a half circle transome on top. Oh, and yes, it has seems at the sidelights. 3 separate sills

fhivinylwindows · 03-17-2007, 11:37 PM

You have a "boxed unit" (3 separate units). If you can not bondo the area then you will need to replace the lower wood with new stock. The stock will either need to be 3/4" or around 1" (measure what you have). Your jamb extends to the bottom of your sill where it is screwed to the sill. When you remove the old wood the sill should be able to move around---be careful. You will need to secure the sill before you insert your new stock. Try to use a composite material when you replace the wood.

tigerbalm2424 · 03-18-2007, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fhivinylwindows

You have a "boxed unit" (3 separate units). If you can not bondo the area then you will need to replace the lower wood with new stock. The stock will either need to be 3/4" or around 1" (measure what you have). Your jamb extends to the bottom of your sill where it is screwed to the sill. When you remove the old wood the sill should be able to move around---be careful. You will need to secure the sill before you insert your new stock. Try to use a composite material when you replace the wood.

Sounds good. One last question. Is it possible to separate, remove, and replace the entire main door frame as a individual piece?(meaning leave the sidelights and transom in place the whole time) I would assume this would involve cutting all the staples currently holding the three units together, then restapling the new unit in.

fhivinylwindows · 03-18-2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tigerbalm2424

Sounds good. One last question. Is it possible to separate, remove, and replace the entire main door frame as a individual piece?(meaning leave the sidelights and transom in place the whole time) I would assume this would involve cutting all the staples currently holding the three units together, then restapling the new unit in.

I have removed staples leaving a transom in place and changed the prehung and sidelights. To be honest with you, if it was my house I would try it. I just can't practice stuff like that on a customers house.

TT's unit size is a little different than most of the other door builders. You might want to use one of their new prehung units. Let me know how it works out.

The staples pull out easier than cutting them.

tigerbalm2424 · 03-18-2007, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by fhivinylwindows

I have removed staples leaving a transom in place and changed the prehung and sidelights. To be honest with you, if it was my house I would try it. I just can't practice stuff like that on a customers house.

TT's unit size is a little different than most of the other door builders. You might want to use one of their new prehung units. Let me know how it works out.

The staples pull out easier than cutting them.

I just want to tell you I really appreciate all the info you are giving. I am going to lowes right now to measure a couple new prehungs to see if I can find direct replacement(size-wise).

tigerbalm2424 · 03-18-2007, 11:21 AM

Ok, last question before I start disassembling this thing. Looking at the picture above, if I remove all the staples and pull out the section of frame to the left(main door frame), does this part include the entire door jamb as one piece?

Sorry if that sounds confusing. I guess I am just wondering the jamb is just a component of the main door prehung section or if it connects to the sidelights somehow (other than the stapling)

fhivinylwindows · 03-18-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tigerbalm2424

Ok, last question before I start disassembling this thing. Looking at the picture above, if I remove all the staples and pull out the section of frame to the left(main door frame), does this part include the entire door jamb as one piece?

Sorry if that sounds confusing. I guess I am just wondering the jamb is just a component of the main door prehung section or if it connects to the sidelights somehow (other than the stapling)

On a TT door you will have the staples and the screws through the hinges that secure the prehung jamb to the sidelight jambs. The sill might be caulked to the subfloor.

The unit size of your prehung unit should be around 37.5" +/- 1/8" the issue is with the height which is generally around 82.25". Most "stock" doors are 37.5x81.5",if you use a 81.5" where you need a 82.25 it will look bad, really bad. The sill height has to match and the interior trim elevation has to match. Call around to your lumber yards on Monday to see if they carry TT.

tigerbalm2424 · 03-18-2007, 07:27 PM

Well, lowes doesnt stock any TT prehungs I guess.

So, emailed a couple other local dealers, i'll just have to wait and see tomrrow what they have.

tigerbalm2424 · 03-26-2007, 08:34 AM

This is the first project that i have gone cheap on and repaired vs. replaced!

Well, I was able to track down a local TT dealer willing to talk, which is nice. Decided not to try and replace the prehung(which I found out later would have been REALLY easy) and just ordered a new threshold/sill. So, sawzall old rotten wood out, replace with new misc wood, apply wood filler, sand, prime, paint, and caulk. Thats about it. If this becomes rotten again, which it shouldnt, I will just be rebuiling the entire door from scratch. These frames are VERY basic in my opinion.