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yummy mummy 10-11-2011 08:49 AM

Removing a screw with no head
 
I am trying to remove the glass screen from my fireplace so that I can clean the glass. It is a gas fireplace.

There are screws that I need to remove but the threads on them have stripped and one of them is missing the head completely.
How do I remove these screws?

I think they may also be melted in there.

Thanks for you help.

Pittsville 10-11-2011 10:25 AM

Stripped, broken head and melted. Doesn't sound very promising.

If the screw is large enough, you can try a screw extractor set. Otherwise, you may have to drill it out, re-tap the hole and install a larger screw. Post a photo or two if you can.

Bud Cline 10-11-2011 02:05 PM

Machine threads or wood?:)

Wildie 10-11-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bud Cline (Post 746593)
Machine threads or wood?:)

Bud, I doubt that the doors for a fire place would be made of wood! :eek:

Wildie 10-11-2011 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by yummy mummy (Post 746485)
I am trying to remove the glass screen from my fireplace so that I can clean the glass. It is a gas fireplace.

There are screws that I need to remove but the threads on them have stripped and one of them is missing the head completely.
How do I remove these screws?

I think they may also be melted in there.

Thanks for you help.

If some of the screws have their heads broken off, perhaps someone has already tried to remove them and broke the heads off.
I think that you may be correct, that they are 'melted' in there.
The glass in fireplace doors is rarely removed. If its possible at all, it may be best to clean the glass with it left in place.
The only other option would be to drill out the screws and re-tap the holes.

Bud Cline 10-11-2011 04:21 PM

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Bud, I doubt that the doors for a fire place would be made of wood!

No kidding!!! Do ya think?

That doesn't mean there aren't sheet metal screws that look like wood threads.
Seemed the simpler way to ask the question.

Yummy understands.:)

Ron6519 10-11-2011 10:20 PM

I doubt they are melted, more likely frozen. You can spray them with PB blaster and wait a few days to unscrew them. Or you can use a screw extractor to back them out. Either way, I'd use the Blaster.
It works on exhaust systems on 40 year old cars like a charm.

yummy mummy 10-12-2011 03:44 PM

Thanks everyone for all your suggestions.

This is my brother-in-laws fireplace. I will ask that he send me a photo.
He wants to clean the inside of the glass as it looks really foggy.

jfrotten 10-12-2011 07:07 PM

Be careful with the pb blaster... It works great but is flammable!

oldhouseguy 10-12-2011 07:46 PM

If you have no head, I take this to mean you have no eyes to read this... so I think all the advice on here is in vain.

:whistling2:

yummy mummy 10-12-2011 10:03 PM

1 Attachment(s)
He told me that he used a torque screwdriver (whatever that is....lol)

Is there a particular screw remover kit that he would be able to use?

Here is a photo if that helps.

Attachment 39458

Ron6519 10-13-2011 08:00 AM

If it has a grippable head, you can try a vise grip. If not, use a screw extractor. You drill a hole in the center of the screw and insert the extractor and unscrew it from the inside. You need to drill the hole with the correct soze bit associated with the extractor size.. It has to be to the correct depth and not an "enlarged" hole you get with wobbling the bit.
You can buy an extractor set for a variety of screw sizes. It should run under $20.00

Wildie 10-13-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron6519 (Post 747858)
If it has a grippable head, you can try a vise grip. If not, use a screw extractor. You drill a hole in the center of the screw and insert the extractor and unscrew it from the inside. You need to drill the hole with the correct soze bit associated with the extractor size.. It has to be to the correct depth and not an "enlarged" hole you get with wobbling the bit.
You can buy an extractor set for a variety of screw sizes. It should run under $20.00

Ron, I must be terribly unlucky, as I inveribly break the extractor off in the screw and the I'm in real deep trouble.
The extractor is made of hardened steel that is impossible to re-drill.
I would only us an extractor, when I have given up on removing the screw and don't care anymore, whether I hack it up, or not!

yummy mummy 10-13-2011 12:51 PM

Thanks everyone.

Thank you very much Ron. I will tell him to use a screw extractor and drill a pilot hole first. I think that should do it.

47_47 10-13-2011 01:27 PM

Carefully center punch the screw and use a left handed drill bit.


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