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llckll 03-21-2013 09:03 AM

Redoing front porch steps and decking, need advice
 
Hi All,

I'm getting estimates to have our front porch steps and decking redone.

The contractor gave me two options, pressure treated wood or composite decking.

The composite decking price is almost twice as much so was wondering on how long pressure treated decking wood would last? Is it prone to splitting, cracking, and warping in the sun and rain seasons? I live in NE NJ to give you an idea of what kind of weather we get.

Thanks for any advice.

joecaption 03-21-2013 09:13 AM

Got a picture?
All depends on how you take care of it.
Keep up with the cleaning and restaining needed every 2 years a wood deck can last a long time.
As far as composite deck boards a lot depends on the brand how long it's going to hold up.
I know Trex has had some issues over the years.

llckll 03-21-2013 09:18 AM

Here are some additional details...

Total cost he's charging is $9,832 which includes material and labor which I feel is very high:

Demolish existing steps; install new steps (material and labor) with composite decking (color to be finalized) and railings white color 36” high . Remove debris $3,432

9 steps 8' wide.

Demolish existing porch decking and install new composite decking (material and decking) materials over existing structure. Remove debris $2,500

porch is approximately 5' x 16'

Remove existing railing from porch area and install new composite railings (material and labor) 36” High white color $1,700

Replace front door with framing (labor only, I would have to buy door) $700.

Replacing the three columns on our front porch (labor and material) $1,500.

Thanks again for your advice.

llckll 03-21-2013 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1142116)
Got a picture?
All depends on how you take care of it.
Keep up with the cleaning and restaining needed every 2 years a wood deck can last a long time.
As far as composite deck boards a lot depends on the brand how long it's going to hold up.
I know Trex has had some issues over the years.

Here is a picture. There is a third window all the way to the right that matches the window first window to the right of the front door.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9...DD2AD465E1.JPG

jagans 03-21-2013 09:32 AM

Was he wearing a mask? We are not supposed to discuss price on these forums, but a rule of thumb that my dad gave me which has worked over the years is double the cost of materials, and add about 30 %. I don't know if that is still true in today's economy but it worked for a very long time with this type of work.

It may be an optical illusion, but you should have someone look at the header to the left between the two left columns also, looks to be pretty badly deflected.

joecaption 03-21-2013 09:59 AM

What caught my eye was the price of getting rid of the old materials:eek:

With that style house I'd be concidering using 2-1/4 T X G composite.
You can get it in about 4 differant colors and it would look a whole lot more like an original floor that would have been there.

For a low maintaince deck and still use real wood check into IPE wood.
http://www.advantagelumber.com/decking2.htm

This stuff is so tough you have to predrill it, bugs can not eat it.
If you want there's no need to even seal it.

llckll 03-21-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1142138)
What caught my eye was the price of getting rid of the old materials:eek:

With that style house I'd be concidering using 2-1/4 T X G composite.
You can get it in about 4 differant colors and it would look a whole lot more like an original floor that would have been there.

For a low maintaince deck and still use real wood check into IPE wood.
http://www.advantagelumber.com/decking2.htm

This stuff is so tough you have to predrill it, bugs can not eat it.
If you want there's no need to even seal it.

Those prices are for demolishing, installing, and removing old debris. I feel it's very high which is the consensus of opinions so far. Will continue getting estimates. Will check out the material you recommended.

jagans 03-21-2013 10:09 AM

Whoops, sorry, I read your post wrong. He's doing the decking on the porch too. I was thinking just steps. He's probably in the ballpark.

Pressure treated wood is going to look like crap in my opinion, and worse in short order. My sister just put on a fairly large deck/ramp on the back of my dads house in NJ with the new composite stuff, and just the materials were 14K.

There was a mason in Bound Brook NJ that was using the old deck for a form and pouring a slab over with a brick edging and the ones he did really looked nice. You may want to consider something like that for the porch. This was way back in 76 so I don't recall his name or even if he's still around. Just a thought.

llckll 03-21-2013 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jagans (Post 1142153)
Whoops, sorry, I read your post wrong. He's doing the decking on the porch too. I was thinking just steps. He's probably in the ballpark.

Pressure treated wood is going to look like crap in my opinion, and worse in short order. My sister just put on a fairly large deck/ramp on the back of my dads house in NJ with the new composite stuff, and just the materials were 14K.

There was a mason in Bound Brook NJ that was using the old deck for a form and pouring a slab over with a brick edging and the ones he did really looked nice. You may want to consider something like that for the porch. This was way back in 76 so I don't recall his name or even if he's still around. Just a thought.

thanks for the additional input. Can you link me to some google images of what the slab and brick edging might look like?

Thanks.

jagans 03-21-2013 10:31 AM

No, because I moved to Maryland in 1986. I think he did several along west Franklin Street in Bound Brook.


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