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Old 01-29-2012, 02:56 PM   #31
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Really bad door frame split and then some


Cutting out all the old and puting in a new with either biscuits or screws is not a dutchman. A dutchman would not really work on this door anyways as the damage is to extensive.


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Old 01-29-2012, 03:40 PM   #32
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The last thing this thread needs is yet another opinion, but what the heck...

Wood glue is great for gluing wood together. It is not so great for filling voids.

In this case, the problem is the crack. The holes are just holes and can be filled with putty or spackle or whatever later. The crack needs to be repaired so that the wood where the hinge is attached is stable. I would simply put wood glue in the crack and then drive some #8 2.5" wood screws in from the side of the jamb, countersink them, and be done with that part.

Then I would drill out the old hing holes with 1/2" bit, plug with 1/2" dowel and glue, then redrill for the hinge holes and remount.
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Old 01-29-2012, 06:38 PM   #33
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Yep do as above but also shim solid behind and use longer screws that go into the stud.
More then a dozen ways to skin a cat.
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The last thing this thread needs is yet another opinion, but what the heck...

Wood glue is great for gluing wood together. It is not so great for filling voids.

In this case, the problem is the crack. The holes are just holes and can be filled with putty or spackle or whatever later. The crack needs to be repaired so that the wood where the hinge is attached is stable. I would simply put wood glue in the crack and then drive some #8 2.5" wood screws in from the side of the jamb, countersink them, and be done with that part.

Then I would drill out the old hing holes with 1/2" bit, plug with 1/2" dowel and glue, then redrill for the hinge holes and remount.
Well, since you like facts let me give you some facts.

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The holes can be filled, but they wont be water resistant unless he paints over them. And even then that's still not 100%. Also, Spackle is generally used for patching walls not wood. On wood a wood filler is used.

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Those screws will rust or corrode if this is an exterior door. Only galvanized and stainless steel wont rust or corrode.

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I already suggested he use dowels on the holes.

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No one stated he can't use wood glue to put on new wood.

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Old 01-29-2012, 07:16 PM   #35
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Note: Dutchmans are typically routered out not cut out. He needs to cut, not router, out most of that portion of the door if he is going to replace that wood with new.

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There is nothing inherently wrong with how I suggested he fix this door. Its just not the method you all prefer.
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Old 01-29-2012, 07:54 PM   #37
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if you read my original post i clearly say to use a router. and a dutchman patch does work ive done it several times with great success, both in residential jobs and commercial

as for the door itself there is no mention of if its interior or exterior but based on the picture its clearly a interior door. the door stop is rather thin and there is no weatherstripping

anyhow the original poster looks to have been scared off
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if you read my original post i clearly say to use a router. and a dutchman patch does work ive done it several times with great success, both in residential jobs and commercial

as for the door itself there is no mention of if its interior or exterior but based on the picture its clearly a interior door. the door stop is rather thin and there is no weatherstripping

anyhow the original poster looks to have been scared off
He can't use a router on this door for that. To much of the interior is split apart so there is nothing to router down too. Nothing solid. He needs to use a saw and cut it all out squarely and completely. That would be the purpose of putting in new wood anyways, to replace all the old. I would not mess around with any of the old if new is being put in. There is no logical reason too.

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If this were my door it would of been done and fixed by now.
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How much do you want to spend? How do you want it to look?

You could cut out from about 2" below the hinge to 2" above the hinge and just up to the door stop, Glue/screw in a new piece and patch and sand and paint, also chisle out for hinge.

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I'd do this, but I'd put a solid piece of plywood between the frame and the stud. Wood glue and predrill for the screws.
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