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Tonedidit 01-21-2012 02:18 AM

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Hey diy'ers, i got a problem with a messed up doorframe on the hinge side......

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Any suggestions????

mae-ling 01-21-2012 02:41 AM

How much do you want to spend? How do you want it to look?

You could cut out from about 2" below the hinge to 2" above the hinge and just up to the door stop, Glue/screw in a new piece and patch and sand and paint, also chisle out for hinge.

Or just replace the hinge side of the entire Jamb, you can buy un-machined (not hinges in it) jambs.

Or replace the entire door & frame.

Tonedidit 01-21-2012 02:50 AM

I dont care how it looks and something cheap and easy
 
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i dont care how it looks as long as cheap and easy as well as durable
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Originally Posted by mae-ling (Post 829669)
how much do you want to spend? How do you want it to look?

You could cut out from about 2" below the hinge to 2" above the hinge and just up to the door stop, glue/screw in a new piece and patch and sand and paint, also chisle out for hinge.

Or just replace the hinge side of the entire jamb, you can buy un-machined (not hinges in it) jambs.

Or replace the entire door & frame.


mae-ling 01-21-2012 02:57 AM

Go with the first option then. Use construction adhesive to glue it in, predrill and screw through the edge into the existing jamb. Also predrill your hinge screw holes and shim between the hinge and the studs and use longer screws that go right into the stud.

rubberhead 01-23-2012 06:53 PM

The third (free) option is to relocate that hinge above or below the split. This is not the right way to do it, but it wont cost anything, if you own a chisel and hammer.

woodworkbykirk 01-23-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rubberhead (Post 832663)
The third (free) option is to relocate that hinge above or below the split. This is not the right way to do it, but it wont cost anything, if you own a chisel and hammer.


it will also look like crap, as you will have to mortise the door again.. which both the jamb and door will now need to be patched otherwise.

go with option one.. go onto youtube and type in "dutchman Patch" if you have a trim router it will really speed things up. also using some bondo will fill any bad gaps

rubberhead 01-24-2012 12:26 AM

see post #3

I totally agree with that being said. Someone who is asking how to fix this likely doesn't own a trim router though.

mae-ling 01-24-2012 12:43 AM

Can do it was hand tools.

abracaboom 01-24-2012 05:41 PM

Pry the crack open a bit with a screwdriver, glue both sides with a thin brush the best you can, clamp, fill the holes, slap some paint on it.

woodworkbykirk 01-24-2012 08:09 PM

it can be done with hand tools yes, a hammer and a sharp 1 1/4 chisel works best

as for the glue and clamping thing.. that wont last very long to be honest. where its old wood the joint is 90% certain to fail where it has to handle the stress of the door hanging off it

abracaboom 01-25-2012 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by woodworkbykirk (Post 833747)
as for the glue and clamping thing.. that wont last very long to be honest. where its old wood the joint is 90% certain to fail where it has to handle the stress of the door hanging off it

How long do you think a Dutchman will last with a door hanging on it?

(In both cases, the hinge screws would have to dig into the frame beyond the jamb.)

joecaption 01-25-2012 12:42 AM

I must be missing something. It looks like someone has tryed putting screws in without predrill and has split that wood all over the place.
What's up with all the small holes that are also spilt out above the hindge mortis.
Looks like a remove and replace job to me.

abracaboom 01-25-2012 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 834084)
I must be missing something. It looks like someone has tryed putting screws in without predrill and has split that wood all over the place.
What's up with all the small holes that are also spilt out above the hindge mortis.
Looks like a remove and replace job to me.

Someone (not our poster, but Tone) probably did a little kung-fu with the door creating the large split, and probably that same someone, remorseful but no yet sobered up, tried to fix it by banging some nails to hold the split in place, without predrilling. :)

woodworkbykirk 01-25-2012 06:24 PM

dutchmans work extremely well, your basically removing wood that has failed and replacing with new. ive done it many times and its worked every time.. ive tried the clamp method 3 times twice it failed even with letting the glue cure overnight,

jasin 01-26-2012 03:32 AM

Oh, that's easy to fix!

Separate it apart slightly with a putty knife very gently where it is cracked and scrape out gently any old and loose wood that is coming out. Then pour a bunch of liquidwood into the crack while its seperated. Then clamp it together slowly but not 100% tight .. just enough to hold it together and get it back equal with teh rest of the door. Then let it cure overnight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yGQM...layer_embedded

Note: Liquid wood is basically epoxy so it will last a long time and be very strong.

For the hole where the hinge is. Just get a dowel that fits the hole size. Put a bunch of wood glue on the dowel and in the hole and tap it in, but not to hard or to far or it will crack again. You can then cut the excessive dowel off with a jap saw after its dried up. May need to sand it down flush if its not flush after cutting it off. I would do this though after the liquid wood is finished curing overnight.

http://www.woodcraft.com/Images/products/12F24_400.jpg


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