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Old 03-10-2011, 12:08 PM   #1
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I've pulled four sashes out of my current project Uncovering Hidden Windows in my guest room. I've striped old paint and putty, sanded, repaired, patched, primed and glazed.

Here's my problem: I've worked pretty hard to make these windows look great and I would like to hide this exposed glazing visible from the front.

The original window points were so tiny they held on by a mm. New points are bigger - and I am sure will keep the glass stable for longer.


Once I glazed the windows I have 'over glazing' that shows from the front of the window. It's approximately 1/8 inch or less.


I've worked pretty hard to make these windows and I want them to look great. I went by my local lumber supply (a woodworking place not Lowes) and they don't have anything smaller than 1/4 inch. Ideas for where to look or what to use?


Looking around my house I can see several windows suffering from this problem - that's a problem for another day.

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Reglaze the window so it's not that high. The correct height(of glazing) should not be seen from the back. You just put on too much.
You knew that already, didn't you?
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Reglaze the window so it's not that high. The correct height(of glazing) should not be seen from the back. You just put on too much.
You knew that already, didn't you?
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Thanks for the suggestion, too bad it doesn't help me solve my problem.

The 'ledge' the glass sits on is simply not deep enough. Even before I glazed the points were visible from the front. I tried a couple different types of points. I even ground one down some to hide it, but This resulted in TINY coverage for the point on the glass.

I glazed it close enough to 'just' cover the new, longer points. I assume it's bad form to let part of the glass points stick out of the glazing.

I know that my technique is 'ok' because on the side of the lower sash where the glass sits in a rabbit (no glass points there). The glazing doesn't overhang.

So I still need some suggestions.
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Thanks for the suggestion, too bad it doesn't help me solve my problem.

The 'ledge' the glass sits on is simply not deep enough. Even before I glazed the points were visible from the front. I tried a couple different types of points. I even ground one down some to hide it, but This resulted in TINY coverage for the point on the glass.

I glazed it close enough to 'just' cover the new, longer points. I assume it's bad form to let part of the glass points stick out of the glazing.

I know that my technique is 'ok' because on the side of the lower sash where the glass sits in a rabbit (no glass points there). The glazing doesn't overhang.

So I still need some suggestions.
Remove the glass and rabbet the opening wider. Get larger glass and reglaze.
OR
Cut thin pieces of wood and use those instead of glazing compound.
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Cut thin pieces of wood and put them on the inside so it covers the compound.
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I'm pretty sure I can't 'rabbit' the muntins and rails wider

I am told that for my length of glass (28 inches) that glazing is the appropriate choice.

And yes! I think putting some wood trim on the inside is the way to go. I just cannot find wood stock smaller than 1/4 inch at my local woodworking place (it's a large local lumber shop in my small town).

Since this is a purely 'decorative' and not structural element I'd like to keep it as small as possible (see OP).

So ideas about where I can find some teeny tiny corner bead?
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I'm pretty sure I can't 'rabbit' the muntins and rails wider

I am told that for my length of glass (28 inches) that glazing is the appropriate choice.

And yes! I think putting some wood trim on the inside is the way to go. I just cannot find wood stock smaller than 1/4 inch at my local woodworking place (it's a large local lumber shop in my small town).

Since this is a purely 'decorative' and not structural element I'd like to keep it as small as possible (see OP).

So ideas about where I can find some teeny tiny corner bead?
You make it on a table saw or band saw from larger pieces of molding or a 1x2.
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You make it on a table saw or band saw from larger pieces of molding or a 1x2.
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Have you ever ripped a 1x2 down to something with the dimensions of 1/8x1/8? I would love instructions on how to do this. I've milled moulding using my router - so I'm not exactly a N00b, but I don't think I've ever cut something down to smaller than 1/2 inch.
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Maybe someone will come along with a suggestion you can do.
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Round over all four edges of a piece of one by stock, and then run both edges of the board thru the table saw to give you two eighth inch wide strips with quarter rounded edges. Cut the quarter rounds off the strip with a sharp utility knife and a straight edge. You'll end up with four pieces of eighth inch quarter round. You may need to make a few passes with the knife but eighth inch thick pine should cut rather easily.
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How about some clean looking white, self-stick glazing tape?
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Then just paint to match interior sash...

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I think that 1/4" quarter round would do the trick. If you use anything smaller, you will have trouble attaching it to the wood! You would have to find a craft store or specialty woodworking store to find anything smaller than 1/4". If 1/4" is too big, them follow mem's suggestion. I will go to my shop and try this out just for practice.
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I just took some delivery of some 1/8 x 1/8 balsa that I'm going to try.

Bought it from a dollhouse supply store.

I'll post pics - if this doesn't work I'll do the quarter round.

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