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BimmerRacer 08-23-2012 12:04 PM

Railing attachment
 
I am looking for a way to attach a rail between a wall and box newel and between two box newels. I am not planning on using a rosette on a wall for cleaner appearance.

I initially thought I could just use rail bolts to attach to the wall and since i can get inside the box newel use the same hardware with a flat washer in there. But now, thinking about it more, I am not sure I can actually do that since both the wall and the rail are fixed and can't move? Does this make sense?

BigJim 08-23-2012 01:04 PM

A picture would help us see what you are doing. As for attaching a rail to the wall without anything backing it is asking for problems, the sheet rock will not hold up without something to protect it where the rail attaches to the wall.

BimmerRacer 08-23-2012 04:52 PM

Sure, although I am not seeing how a rosette will solve my issue.
Pics attached.

http://jkuper.smugmug.com/Architectu...23163731-L.jpg
http://jkuper.smugmug.com/Architectu...23163735-L.jpg

BigJim 08-23-2012 06:14 PM

I didn't use the rosettes when I was in business because I didn't like the look, if it were mine I would put a half post at the wall and fasten the rail to it.

BimmerRacer 08-23-2012 06:16 PM

Half post won't work. The wall is too narrow for them

Millertyme 08-23-2012 08:24 PM

I would install the regular rail bolts in the post and one in the wall. Drill the 1" hole in the bottom of the rail for the rail bolt wrench like you normally would. I then cut a slot in the bottom of the rail so the rail can slide over the rail bolt on one side only. I usually just do this with a jigsaw. Attach rail as you normally would. Then you go back and fill in the slot. I usually make a small wedge shaped piece so it fits snug. Then I go back and fix the 1" hole with a dremel tool.

Millertyme 08-23-2012 08:33 PM

How about a square rosette there with beveled edges?

BimmerRacer 08-23-2012 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Millertyme (Post 995010)
I would install the regular rail bolts in the post and one in the wall. Drill the 1" hole in the bottom of the rail for the rail bolt wrench like you normally would. I then cut a slot in the bottom of the rail so the rail can slide over the rail bolt on one side only. I usually just do this with a jigsaw. Attach rail as you normally would. Then you go back and fill in the slot. I usually make a small wedge shaped piece so it fits snug. Then I go back and fix the 1" hole with a dremel tool.

What do you mean by that last part?

Millertyme 08-24-2012 06:15 AM

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Hope this helps

BimmerRacer 09-05-2012 10:36 AM

So, back to this...for the rosette, any suggestion on how to attach it to the wall so that no screws/plugs are visible? Also, I don't think the rail bolt is long enough to go through the rosette and drywall to reach the framing. T

This is the handrail I am using

http://www.westfiremfg.com/6000Pi_lg.gif

mae-ling 09-05-2012 11:09 AM

If you use the rail bolt as suggested then only need to nail the rosette on.
I was able to get different lengths of bolts.

BimmerRacer 09-05-2012 11:36 AM

I don't think big box stores carry them in different lengths. Was hoping to do it this weekend

notmrjohn 09-05-2012 12:23 PM

How long do you need? Walk out of big box, go to Hardware store, hanger bolts up to 12". Farm and ranch supply even longer.

BimmerRacer 09-05-2012 01:56 PM

I'll check my local Ace...I am thinking 5" would do. Thanks

BimmerRacer 09-05-2012 02:18 PM

No luck at Ace


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