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Old 07-05-2008, 09:48 PM   #1
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Is there any reason this wouldn't work well for kitchen drawers?



Its cheap and easy to just drill holes with a drill press, and the dowel alignment is easy with an inexpensive (or homemade) dowel jig. You would, of course, attach a normal drawer front.

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I would have to say there is no stronger joint for draw construction then a true dovetail.
With your Design : I believe with the constant force of pulling upon the front frame of your design in conjunction with a floating draw base which is common , I would feel the glue joints will loosen up and the draw box will start to rack, and the wooden dowels will start to pull apart.
What type of draw guides are you going to use. This might help. Plus is the draw bottom going to be fastened or loose. It would work as a cheap option for HD.

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Old 07-06-2008, 01:48 AM   #3
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Doweling is pretty common joinery, but isn't ideal for your application. In order to build drawers, you have to be able to cut dados (for the floating bottom of the drawer). If you can cut dadoes, you can cut rabbets. If you want to use dowels, I'd suggest using a rabbet on the front and back of the drawer to receive the drawer sides. That way you get more glue joint. Your dowels can be drilled in through the sides into the front. They'll be less likely to fail that way.

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These are some simple drawers I'm building for my bathroom. The front is poplar, and the oak drawer front will fasten to that. The backs are poplar. The sides are birch plywood. I ran rabbets in the front and back the thickness of the 1/2" birch plywood sides, and glued and pinned the sides to the front/back with three brads at each joint. I use 1/2" birch for the floating drawer bottom (in a dado) because I like a solid drawer bottom and 1/4" is too flimsy for my liking.

On yours, you could run 1/4" dowels where I used brads to secure the joint.
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That looks great. Thats pretty much what I was thinking. I may do one this way as a "test" model and see how it "feels".

Thanks again all for the comments and advice. I'm an electronics tech by trade. I wish I could just solder this all together.
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I wish I could just solder this all together.
You can, but you'd better reinforce it with tape.
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How about a lock joint for the front and a dado at the back?
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How about a lock joint for the front and a dado at the back?
Good joint there. Another great method is the drawer lock router bits that they sell, but you need a router table.

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