 |
|
05-09-2009, 08:22 PM
|
#31
|
|
Member
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 90
|
outside stairs (deck)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave
Yes - I used simpson L brackets under the stairs - I think they were 3" wide - so not a normal L bracket
I had cement block on the stairs & had my wife sit on them
Then I screwed each one in - starting at the lowest step
|
I am going to try it soon as I can. thanks
|
|
|
Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. DIYChatroom.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any home improvement task!
|
05-10-2009, 04:39 PM
|
#32
|
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: colorado springs
Posts: 577
|
outside stairs (deck)
hmmm...Texas, you and the Scuba just might be talking about different things :-)
anyways, what's better,ring shank or smooth nails?
tnx,
|
|
|
|
|
05-10-2009, 07:04 PM
|
#33
|
|
Member
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 90
|
outside stairs (deck)
Ring. the rings hold better as the wood moves. The rings are very small though. Thats why screws are better. Also if repairs are ever needed much easier to remove screws than ring shanh nails. Good luck how ever you go. Have fun
|
|
|
|
|
05-10-2009, 10:22 PM
|
#34
|
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: colorado springs
Posts: 577
|
outside stairs (deck)
does this look like a decent deal?
304 STAINLESS STEEL 3" x .120 RING STRIP NAILS 21° PLASTIC 1M BOX
Price: $89.95
Full Round Head, Ring shank
1000 count, 304 Grade Stainless
FREE SHIPPING IN THE U.S.
I wonder,is .120 sufficient for stairs? the next size up is .131 for alot more.
tnx,ken
|
|
|
|
|
05-10-2009, 11:33 PM
|
#35
|
|
Member
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 90
|
outside stairs (deck)
Quote:
Originally Posted by analogmusicman
|
You get 2000 nails in a box right, thats $0.044975 per nail.
|
|
|
|
|
05-11-2009, 05:39 PM
|
#36
|
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: colorado springs
Posts: 577
|
outside stairs (deck)
I thought 1M means ONE thousand 
tnx,
|
|
|
|
|
05-11-2009, 08:21 PM
|
#37
|
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: colorado springs
Posts: 577
|
outside stairs (deck)
so,what's a "sonotube" anyway? and how would I use them to put a couple posts into the ground to support the stairs?
tnx,
|
|
|
|
|
05-11-2009, 08:40 PM
|
#38
|
|
Member
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 90
|
outside stairs (deck)
Quote:
Originally Posted by analogmusicman
I thought 1M means ONE thousand
tnx, |
I did not see that. I get boxes of nails at 2000 per box and assumied that would hold ture to the ones you found. Still not too bad, but I am cheep so I wopuld look some more unless I had been looking a long time.
|
|
|
|
|
05-11-2009, 10:02 PM
|
#39
|
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: colorado springs
Posts: 577
|
outside stairs (deck)
Quote:
Originally Posted by texas115115
I did not see that. I get boxes of nails at 2000 per box and assumied that would hold ture to the ones you found. Still not too bad, but I am cheep so I wopuld look some more unless I had been looking a long time. |
whew! thought I was gonna hafta divide everything you said by 2 
|
|
|
|
|
05-11-2009, 11:21 PM
|
#40
|
|
Xtreme DIY'r
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: South of Boston, MA
Posts: 17,248
|
outside stairs (deck)
Sono tube, and with post bracket
 
|
|
|
|
|
05-12-2009, 12:21 AM
|
#41
|
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: colorado springs
Posts: 577
|
outside stairs (deck)
I kinda had an idea of what they might be. now the important question:
my frost line here in colo. springs is 25 in. down. so I dig a hole how deep? does the top of the concrete have to be below 25 in. ? this will be a pretty deep hole! 
tnx,
|
|
|
|
|
05-12-2009, 09:45 PM
|
#42
|
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: colorado springs
Posts: 577
|
outside stairs (deck)
took down a couple stringers today. looks like whoever built the stairs used roofing nails to secure the hangers. those nails came right out. scary to think that those stairs were held up all these years by some roofing nails that came right out. good thing none of us in the family are heavyweights or that we never had anything real heavy brought into the house via those stairs! (like a fridge)
tnx,ken
|
|
|
|
|
05-12-2009, 10:00 PM
|
#43
|
|
Xtreme DIY'r
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: South of Boston, MA
Posts: 17,248
|
outside stairs (deck)
Quote:
Originally Posted by analogmusicman
I kinda had an idea of what they might be. now the important question:
my frost line here in colo. springs is 25 in. down. so I dig a hole how deep? does the top of the concrete have to be below 25 in. ? this will be a pretty deep hole!
tnx, |
No - the top of the concrete is above ground level 
The bottom must be below the frost line
The bottom dirt/rockmust be tamped down hard before the concrete is poured
|
|
|
|
|
05-12-2009, 10:41 PM
|
#44
|
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: colorado springs
Posts: 577
|
outside stairs (deck)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave
No - the top of the concrete is above ground level
The bottom must be below the frost line
The bottom dirt/rockmust be tamped down hard before the concrete is poured |
whew...thought I was gonna hafta dig down to China 
the hangers that were used to hold the stringers up (see my previous post) look like regular joist hangers EXCEPT the top part is angled to accomodate the angle of the stringer as it goes down to the ground. anyone know if HD or Lowes sells these?
tnx,
|
|
|
|
|
05-12-2009, 11:01 PM
|
#45
|
|
Xtreme DIY'r
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: South of Boston, MA
Posts: 17,248
|
outside stairs (deck)
Yes - HD has the angled joist hangers
Lowes should have them too
|
|
|
|
-->
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
| Display Modes |
 Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|
