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Old 02-11-2009, 05:17 PM   #16
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just curious: what's the scoop on those "pre-cut" stringers that I'm hearing about sometimes? you'd think it'd be impossible to predetermine the right angles and such.
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I only had I think 6 steps, so HD has pre-cut PT stringers
7th step was the concrete landing

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Old 02-24-2009, 09:53 PM   #17
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I like the idea of putting a couple 4x4 posts in the middle of the stairs and putting a header on top of them to give some support midway to the stairs. should the cement for the posts be concrete or post cement? since I'm going to keep this house, I can foresee having to replace one of those posts someday and an 85 year old trying to break up concrete can't be a pretty sight (to say nothing of heart attacks!)

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Old 02-25-2009, 05:31 AM   #18
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Cement is used to make concrete. Post cement is just a mix that cures quickly to set fence posts and such. To support a post for the stairs you need a foundation at least 8" - 10" (depends on local codes) as deep as your local frost line. I am in CT and here it is 42". Anything else the post will heave with freeze/thaw cycles and knock your stairs out of whack. Use a gravel mix cement like Sakcrete and a sono-tube to make these foundations for the posts. Keep the posts up from the cement with post supports. Tie these supports to the concrete with an anchor bolt.
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hey Bob, tnx for the reply. sounds like you're saying that these posts need a regular foundation as opposed to just putting the posts in the ground and filling the hole with cement.
so, I should dig a hole down to the frostline,fill the hole with concrete,set a post-holder into the concrete,let it set, then put the post into the holder. is that about right?

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That is correct
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hot dip galvanized ok? trouble finding stainless nails for my nailer.

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yes that will be fine.
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anything good or bad to say about B&C Eagle nails? thinking of ordering some from Amazon. they call them 20-22 degree nails so must fit my 21 deg. nailer and they don't list the compatible nailers so I guess they're "universal".

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what's better for exterior, ring shank or smooth nails?

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I also screw the stair treads in from underneath - no visible screws
I use metal brackets, more work, but a nice clean look
Also no chance of splinters or water soaking into the stair tread thru the screw hole
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hot dip galvanized ok? trouble finding stainless nails for my nailer.

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I have built a lot of stairs in my day and after 20 years I only use stanless screws of exterrior deck or stair apps. I like scuba-daves idea of putting them under the treads also. Galvanized will work and if you dont want to buy a screw gun then that would be your best choice. What brand is your nail gun??
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it's a Campbell-Hausfeld.
how would you put screws UNDER the treads? L brackets?

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it's a Campbell-Hausfeld.
how would you put screws UNDER the treads? L brackets?

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Lets ask scuba-dave that?? His idea..
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it's a Campbell-Hausfeld.
how would you put screws UNDER the treads? L brackets?

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I dont know about your campbell-hausfeld. I have a 21 dregree synco framing nailer I like really well and dont have trouble finding my nails at the local lumber yard.
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it's a Campbell-Hausfeld.
how would you put screws UNDER the treads? L brackets?

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Yes - I used simpson L brackets under the stairs - I think they were 3" wide - so not a normal L bracket
I had cement block on the stairs & had my wife sit on them
Then I screwed each one in - starting at the lowest step

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