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Old 12-07-2010, 08:37 AM   #1
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I have a home built in 1951 with a walkout basement. I've just finished framing and insulating the block walls in the basement, which of course has added several inches to the wall thickness. The door leading to the garage needs to be moved back flush with the interior side of the wall, and I'm trying to decide the best way to do this. The door is original, a heavy wooden raised-panel door with a half-window that is single pane. There are jambs nailed into the ends of the adjoining block walls.

At best, the wood door with glass has an R- value of 0.5 to 1, and feels pretty cold in the winter. I was considering replacing it with an insulated door (the glass is also a modern code violation, but that's not worrying me at this point).

If I keep the door, I need to replace the jambs with those of proper width, and rehang the door, though I've never done that before and have heard it can be a chore. A pre-hung door would solve that problem, though that would add a wooden threshold that currently isn't there. I've got a lot of heavy woodworking equipment in the basement and its nice to be able to roll it in/out of the garage as I do at present (the basement and garage slabs are flush).

Does it make sense to replace the door with an insulated door?

If I went with a pre-hung door, would it make sense to cut away the threshold after installation, or would that weaken the frame in some way?

Thanks.

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Old 12-07-2010, 08:42 AM   #2
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Go with a pre-hung and leave the threshold in place. It's a minor inconvenience compared to heat loss and comfort. Have you considered an out swing door. Might be more beneficial with regards to work space or ease of egress.

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What is the flooring at this spot?

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All depends on how handy you are, and it sounds like you are. Go for the challenge.
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What is the flooring at this spot?

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Go with a pre-hung and leave the threshold in place. It's a minor inconvenience compared to heat loss and comfort. Have you considered an out swing door. Might be more beneficial with regards to work space or ease of egress.
But I have a tight seal already using a relatively flat metal threshold that I can easily remove when I need to. There's a matching rubber seal on the bottom of the door that is airtight. But the nice thing is that the threshold can be removed in less than a minute, and replaced when I'm done.
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All depends on how handy you are, and it sounds like you are. Go for the challenge.
LOL. I'm up for a challenge, but my house is full of challenges so I've gotta choose my battles carefully. If this one is a worthy cause though, especially to keep a removable threshold, I would go for it.
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But I have a tight seal already using a relatively flat metal threshold that I can easily remove when I need to. There's a matching rubber seal on the bottom of the door that is airtight. But the nice thing is that the threshold can be removed in less than a minute, and replaced when I'm done.
Good deal, I'd not want to lose the flush either.

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But I have a tight seal already using a relatively flat metal threshold that I can easily remove when I need to. There's a matching rubber seal on the bottom of the door that is airtight. But the nice thing is that the threshold can be removed in less than a minute, and replaced when I'm done.
Well if it will work, go for it!
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You could order the prehung door without a threshold installed.
Just make sure they are going to use jambs that have not been prepped
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Local door shop would probably be much more helpful than big box.

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I have a home built in 1951 with a walkout basement. I've just finished framing and insulating the block walls in the basement, which of course has added several inches to the wall thickness. The door leading to the garage needs to be moved back flush with the interior side of the wall, and I'm trying to decide the best way to do this. The door is original, a heavy wooden raised-panel door with a half-window that is single pane. There are jambs nailed into the ends of the adjoining block walls.

At best, the wood door with glass has an R- value of 0.5 to 1, and feels pretty cold in the winter. I was considering replacing it with an insulated door (the glass is also a modern code violation, but that's not worrying me at this point).

If I keep the door, I need to replace the jambs with those of proper width, and rehang the door, though I've never done that before and have heard it can be a chore. A pre-hung door would solve that problem, though that would add a wooden threshold that currently isn't there. I've got a lot of heavy woodworking equipment in the basement and its nice to be able to roll it in/out of the garage as I do at present (the basement and garage slabs are flush).

Does it make sense to replace the door with an insulated door?

If I went with a pre-hung door, would it make sense to cut away the threshold after installation, or would that weaken the frame in some way?

Thanks.
If this door is shared with the garage, you'll more than likely need a fire-rated door, or at least "should" have one. The jambs are part of the fire rating as well, so you'd need to buy a pre-hung if that was the case.
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Do you like to door? It's been there for 60 years so it must be working well. You could replace the glass with insulated glass. Making your own door jambs isn't that hard to do, here is a link to a vid on how to make you own- http://garykatz.blip.tv/file/3355271/

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