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joetab24 01-06-2011 07:26 AM

need some fresh ideas for finishing screened porch
 
I'll start with my question

I'd like to use a moulding for the project below that looks better than the vinyl caps and bases. I also don't like the composite (90% recycled material) moulding I used on the interior. I realize I have to put something up that is able to handle the harsh weather, what would you suggest? Thanks for taking a look.

Note: this project has been a fun but very frustrating journey. I've been tempted more than a few times to just pull the whole dam! thing down, but then again I've come pretty far and I still like the idea of having an outdoor space that is screened in.


SPRING 2010
I started with this-
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/y...4/118_2866.jpg

A simple yet inviting front porch. Although, truth be told, we never used it due to an abundance of bugs. Figured I'd try to create a screened in porch. This would be a great chance for me to learn all kinds of skills that I didn't possess :eek:.

SUMMER 2010
Got pretty far
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/y...118_3738-1.jpg

I would say we gave up some curb appeal, but we gained some outdoor space that has fewer bugs.

Started to put some trim on the inside. This product is made from recycled materials and supposedly holds up well in an exterior environment.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/y...4/118_3788.jpg

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/y...4/118_3783.jpg

but I just wasn't happy with the way things looked, particularly on the exterior. The screen tight cap and base that was so appealing in the beginning, because of its ease for the DIYer, now appeared kind of cheap/tacky.

FALL 2010
I kept having the following conversation with myself: "I want to get this project right and I have a decent amount of small errors to correct. I don't want to be the guy who half asse! a DIY project. I want to get it right, and I will. In other areas of my life, I've always been able to admit when something could be done better and I've developed my skills enough from the start of this project to go back and fix things."

So I started deconstructing :blink:

Took all the screens out and removed the caps and bases. Back to where I was in May with this project.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/y...etab24/010.jpg

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/y...etab24/006.jpg

A question

I'd like to use a moulding for this project that looks better than the vinyl or plastic caps and bases. I also don't like the recycled moulding I used on the interior. I realize I have to put something up that is able to handle the harsh weather, what would you suggest? Thanks for taking a look.

It's tempting to just pull the whole dam! thing down, but then again I've come pretty far and I still like the idea of having an outdoor space that is screened in. It's been a fun and frustrating journey. I expected nothing less!

joetab24 01-06-2011 04:59 PM

did I post this is the wrong topic forum? which one might be better? thnx for your help! :)

mrgins 01-06-2011 05:22 PM

As far as I know, this is the right forum! As a remodeling contractor, the vinyl caps and bases are my choice. I think they look clean and sleek. Wood moulding splits, needs painting, has to be replaced when you change the screens etc.

joetab24 01-06-2011 05:43 PM

in hindsight i realize i made a mistake by framing my front in 3 sections, using 2 X 4s rather than 4 X 4s. it was easier to do this since i framed it on the ground, and the area i framed on (my porch) was fairly tight. anyway, i then had to butt the 1.5" in caps and bases up against each other, creating a seam which varied in size slightly since my framing was off square a bit. I want to move forward with this project rather than scrapping it. just have to work out my next steps.

joe

johnqu 01-07-2011 06:29 PM

tABZ

I left this post alone for several days to see if anybody wanted it. Seems are there are no takers. This is the way we do it at Killerdecks I hope it helps answer any quetions
1]. Frame the walls using 4x4 cedar studs, 1 cedar 2x4 top plate and 1 treated 2x4 bottom plate
2]. Use continuos plate much the same as is done on a house. I am not sure why you have mitres on the bottom plate but it is not necessary.
3] Use the came configuration with the horizontal 2x4 3 feet of the ground.
4] Trim the out side of the walls with 1x cedar material leaving a 1" reveal. Top and plate use 1x3 continous, Use 1x6 on the vertical 4x4 studs. Outside corner use a 1x6 and a 1x8.
5]. cover the horizontal 2x4 with 2x6 being careful to cut around the 4x4's This will provide a nice shelf to se things on later. Trim with a 1x6
6]. bottom treated 2x4 trim with 1x3 cut between the 1x6 used to trim the 4x4 studs
7]' Lots of time we use 1/4 tempered glass for the bottom panels and screens for the top.
8.] A good local hardware store should be able to make screens for you using aluminum frames
9]. Glass migh be harder to find. But woth it if you do.
10]. Make sure to resource these items before you build.
11]. Once it is framed and trimmed get you measurements and order the glass and screens.
12]. Make sure to # them or make as heet which willexplain where the different pieces go.
13]. Install the screens by pushing them all the way to the revealed edge of the trim. Use 1x2 cedar in whole stips to use for stop against the screens or glass. Make sure to screw them in place so it will be easy to rove should you have to replace any screens.
14]. Use a good solid color stain to match rest of the
house.
15]. you may try arches at the top.


hope this helpz

joetab24 01-07-2011 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnqu (Post 565018)
tABZ

I left this post alone for several days to see if anybody wanted it. Seems are there are no takers. This is the way we do it at Killerdecks I hope it helps answer any quetions


1]. Frame the walls using 4x4 cedar studs, 1 cedar 2x4 top plate and 1 treated 2x4 bottom plate

(can I keep my framing the way I have it? I really don't want to take everything down)

2]. Use continuos plate much the same as is done on a house. I am not sure why you have mitres on the bottom plate but it is not necessary.
3] Use the came configuration with the horizontal 2x4 3 feet of the ground.
4] Trim the out side of the walls with 1x cedar material leaving a 1" reveal. Top and plate use 1x3 continous, Use 1x6 on the vertical 4x4 studs. Outside corner use a 1x6 and a 1x8.
5]. cover the horizontal 2x4 with 2x6 being careful to cut around the 4x4's This will provide a nice shelf to se things on later. Trim with a 1x6
6]. bottom treated 2x4 trim with 1x3 cut between the 1x6 used to trim the 4x4 studs
7]' Lots of time we use 1/4 tempered glass for the bottom panels and screens for the top.
8.] A good local hardware store should be able to make screens for you using aluminum frames
9]. Glass migh be harder to find. But woth it if you do.
10]. Make sure to resource these items before you build.
11]. Once it is framed and trimmed get you measurements and order the glass and screens.
12]. Make sure to # them or make as heet which willexplain where the different pieces go.
13]. Install the screens by pushing them all the way to the revealed edge of the trim. Use 1x2 cedar in whole stips to use for stop against the screens or glass. Make sure to screw them in place so it will be easy to rove should you have to replace any screens.
14]. Use a good solid color stain to match rest of the
house.
15]. you may try arches at the top.

do i have to weatherproof the cedar?
hope this helpz

thanks for your help!


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