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Areser 12-14-2011 04:42 PM

Need to repair the peak of my roof
 
When our home was built six years ago our builder placed a 6" strip of board on both sides of the peak. Those boards are breaking and haning into the attic. I need to get them fixed. I was told by a contractor that they can be fixed from the inside, I questioned this. The builder has since moved or gone out of business, At least I can't find him. ANY IDEAS.

titanoman 12-14-2011 04:48 PM

Put some blocks in between the rafters where needed.

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Ron6519 12-14-2011 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Areser (Post 794130)
When our home was built six years ago our builder placed a 6" strip of board on both sides of the peak. Those boards are breaking and haning into the attic. I need to get them fixed. I was told by a contractor that they can be fixed from the inside, I questioned this. The builder has since moved or gone out of business, At least I can't find him. ANY IDEAS.

There are roofing shingles on the peak, not boards.
Post some photos.

titanoman 12-14-2011 08:58 PM

Just as I thought. I don't have a clue what the op is talking about.

coupe 12-15-2011 01:03 PM

this sounds to me, like the builder used 6"boards for what we call collar ties. is the roof line sagging? is this a gabled roof? if so, you propably have verticle cracks in drywall? corner beads popping, corner tape tearing loose.

how about the joits at ridge? are there gaps at the bottom of ridge rafter joints? if so? the outside walls are spreading also, causing these verticle cracks.

this is rather an easy fix, using a cheap laser pointer, places level at one end of the roof ridge. set it level at say 1 1/2" below ridge under rafters. the laser line should be 1 1/2" under ridge at other end a well as under every rafter.

if there is a solid bearing wall under center or very close? use some solid blocking and jack roof up to 1 1/2" above laser line. and install new collar ties 2x6 level across, about 16"-24" below ridge, drilled and lag bolted to each rafter.

this should straighten the roof line, even pull walls back where they should be.

you'll still have any cracks to redo, but should stop it all from getting worse

titanoman 12-15-2011 01:54 PM

If there's no more than 1 or 2 broken (and I've never seen broken collar ties. That makes no sense), the walls haven't moved anywhere. Just scab some soldiers alongside the broken ones with several nails.
And don't be storing or hanging anything on or from them.

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coupe 12-15-2011 04:11 PM

I've seen collar ties broken several times, when using 1x6 as ties. just from weight of roofing shingles. much less than the snow load the northeast experienced last winter!

I was simply trying to help the op, with method to fix if that indeed is the case?

take what helps? ignore the rest

titanoman 12-15-2011 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coupe (Post 794820)
I've seen collar ties broken several times, when using 1x6 as ties. just from weight of roofing shingles. much less than the snow load the northeast experienced last winter!

I was simply trying to help the op, with method to fix if that indeed is the case?

take what helps? ignore the rest

I guess that's why I've always used 2x for collars.

coupe 12-15-2011 05:16 PM

that is exactly why I suggested using 2x6

Ron6519 12-16-2011 01:01 PM

Maybe if the OP comes back with more details, some of these suggestions might prove relevant, but I've never understood suggestion after suggestion when the post was unclear as to what the issue actually was.
Maybe a Theoretical Problem forum where they only post their hat size and everybody guesses what the home improvement issue is.
It could be subtitled, "Beating the dead horse" forum.
Returning to the original program...
Maybe it's termites.:yes: Yeah, that's the ticket!

titanoman 12-16-2011 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron6519 (Post 795398)
Maybe if the OP comes back with more details, some of these suggestions might prove relevant, but I've never understood suggestion after suggestion when the post was unclear as to what the issue actually was.
Maybe a Theoretical Problem forum where they only post their hat size and everybody guesses what the home improvement issue is.
It could be subtitled, "Beating the dead horse" forum.
Returning to the original program...
Maybe it's termites.:yes: Yeah, that's the ticket!

You got a problem with a couple of carpenters talking about collar ties amongst themselves?
If the op comes back, fine. If not, that's fine too.

Ron6519 12-16-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titanoman (Post 795410)
You got a problem with a couple of carpenters talking about collar ties amongst themselves?
If the op comes back, fine. If not, that's fine too.

What you're doing is addressing, in a scatter gun approach, all things roof related, or structurally related to roof framing.
Does it address the OP problem? Who knows? All we know is that something that's 6" is of issue and roof related.
Does a buried discussion about collar ties benefit anyone?
Makes more sense to me, to start a new thread called, Collar ties, the rights and wrongs of roof structure. It's on point and people can find it.
Not that I've not been quilty of mixing chaff with wheat on an occasion or two...
This is probably one of them.

titanoman 12-16-2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron6519 (Post 795437)
What you're doing is addressing, in a scatter gun approach, all things roof related, or structurally related to roof framing.
Does it address the OP problem? Who knows? All we know is that something that's 6" is of issue and roof related.
Does a buried discussion about collar ties benefit anyone?
Makes more sense to me, to start a new thread called, Collar ties, the rights and wrongs of roof structure. It's on point and people can find it.
Not that I've not been quilty of mixing chaff with wheat on an occasion or two...
This is probably one of them.

Maybe people like you could benefit from discussions like the one we were having before you so rudely jumped in on. Your posts right now are useless to anybody. Why are you even here right now?
Now if you want to talk shop...

Ron6519 12-16-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titanoman (Post 795441)
Maybe people like you could benefit from discussions like the one we were having before you so rudely jumped in on. Your posts right now are useless to anybody. Why are you even here right now?
Now if you want to talk shop...

The thread is all yours.

coupe 12-16-2011 05:15 PM

Maybe if the OP comes back with more details, some of these suggestions might prove relevant, but I've never understood suggestion after suggestion when the post was unclear as to what the issue actually was.
Maybe.

Ron, this is a carpentry DIY forum. exactly how much information do you need?

typically, anything attached near the ridge of a roof is called "collar ties" these do not usually break and hang into an attic without cause!

the thread was running smoothly until you chimed in with not understanding suggestions? maybe you're better suited for a forum of polyester v/s cotton ties? like a fashion or wardrobe type of forum.

something has caused these collar ties to crack and fall! weather it was snow load in his/her area or incorrect framing of the structure? we don't know!

maybe the op took the suggestions, fixed it and moved on? others may have learned something, simply by reading? that was the intention of us who posted on this thread.

if it is unhelpful to you? skip over it! it has been an informational thread if nothing else? that being said, I hereby change my suggestion of 2x6's to 6" strip of 6 ply 3/4" plywood. anything that has a near straight grain line, is susceptible to cracking. 6 ply 3/4" plywood will be just as strong and not going to crack in any direction.

somehow, this informative thread, has now turned into an argumentative one.

since the thread now belongs to Tritonman?

I'm guessing Ron will no longer be reading or learning? just in case he needs it in the future


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