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Old 02-25-2013, 12:56 PM   #1
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We would like to re-do our stairs that go to the second floor of our A-frame house and are having a really hard time trying to get a layout that will fit our small space. The current stairs were a DIY that was done to fit the area and we have an L shaped stairway with 3 steps up to the landing (risers are 10", 7", 7", 7") this landing has a clearance of 6' above where step and landing meet so we can't make the landing any higher. Then we have 7 stairs that are 10" high (riser) and 9" deep (tread) going up to a small landing at the top that has a door to each room on either side. Width of small staircase is 36" and width of landing and larger stairs is 42". We want to try and make the stairs more like a normal set but are limited by the space confines we have - have length to extend lower stairs but no headroom and have headroom to extend upper stairs but no floor space for them.
We have wondered if winder stairs could work in this space but seem to be coming up with a riser height of 8.3"
Any Suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! (oh and we are in Ontario if that helps)

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Old 02-25-2013, 06:36 PM   #2
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I cant believe that anyone would build stairs as you describe. I would constantly be tripping up the stairs. Code requires that steps are to be equal rise and be 7 to 8 inches rise per step. What you have is INSANE, but should work well to track down burglers, just look for people with black eyes and broken noses.



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Thank you jagans for your comment but i already know the stairs are difficult as i have been using them for 7 years. I am looking for some helpful information!!
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An 8 1/4 per rise would be fine if you have a fairly deep tread. You can even add aliitle to the nose to help if need be. For instance we have already built stairs that gave 8 1/4 rise and 11 1/4 tread including a 1 1/4 nose
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:06 PM   #6
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Can u raise the header on bottom for more clearance, and can u push back the top step by doubling next joist back
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Really need a picture so we can see what your seeing.
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ok so i have some pics to attach and the 6' hight at landing is with raising the header - we will be moving the smaller staircase out the wall with the hole in it but has same height. i dont know if you can tell from the pics but we cant really change the upper landing as it is already really small.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:04 AM   #9
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This isn't going down into a basement is it?
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no main floor to second floor
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Ok and your head room is cutiing it close with what you already have installed? Reason i ask is because if you can add a full tread and rider you would then lower your per rise m
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we were thinking if we could maybe make all the stairs narrower (34" maybe) then we might be able to gain some more space to make the lower run longer before adding in the winder section. We are going to do some more measurements tonight and see if we can get any more space anywhere else...
yes head room as is now is 6' at top step/landing

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