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eemichael83 10-23-2010 09:08 PM

Need help! Cabinet install gone slightly wrong
 
So I started on installing a pantry cabinet today. It is a 'Homecrest' make and Heartland is the model. The cabinet is being installed at the end of a countertop. The countertop overhangs the base cabinet as usual. The problem was that the pantry cabinet has a 3/4" or so lip that sticks out in the front... this mean either the counter top was going to have to be trimmed or a notch was going to have to be cut in the lip on the cabinet so that the side of the cabinet would sit flush against the counter.

I chose to cut the notch. Everything went great... I probably couldn't have done it better. I had the linoleum cut tight to where the cabinet would rest and the notch was cut tight too. In fact, it turns out that I cut everything to fit so perfectly, that once I positioned the cabinet to 'test fit'... it couldnt be moved back out. It was getting caught on the edge of the linoleum, and I couldnt really lift and pull because the notch I had cut was so tight. Something had to give... and it did. The notch I had cut out in the cabinet ended up chipping trying to move the cabinet back out. In hind sight I should have cut away a bit more of the linoleum and just let the quarter round cover the cut... but too late for that now.

So my question is, is there any thing I can do to repair this chip? I took part of what chipped off and glued it in place but there is still a small section missing and you can see the outline of the chip that is glued in place. Here are some pics.

Here is the notch that was cut so the side of the cabinet would rest flush against the counter:
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1..._DSC3045-1.jpg

And here is the chip:
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...9/_DSC3047.jpg

Close-up:
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1..._DSC3047-1.jpg

As you can see, its not unbearable... its just very irritating knowing that it was a new cabinet and now it has a somewhat noticeable chip in it, especially since I had it in place at one time and it was perfect lol. Thanks in advance for any help or advice.

jlhaslip 10-23-2010 09:51 PM

try a colour matched wax stick.

I would have ordered a filler for under the countertop lip...

eemichael83 10-23-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jlhaslip (Post 522084)
try a colour matched wax stick.

I would have ordered a filler for under the countertop lip...

I have a color matched wax stick... I'll try it and see how it looks. Also, I ordered the filler for under the countertop lip but I have to wait until monday for the cabinet place to open so they can cut it for me. I dont have a table saw.

guest 10-24-2010 07:38 AM

If it bugs you unbearably and it would me, I think I would call the cabinet co. and see if they can put a new face board just on that side, probably wouldn't cost much, since you are a customer already.

BigJim 10-24-2010 07:43 AM

If the color stick doesn't make it to your liking, you can buy some color putty to fill any slight cracks or holes. I like the color stick as it will hide the majority of the chip. By the way, use mineral spirits to smooth the color putty and clean up the area.

Ron6519 10-24-2010 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by guest (Post 522153)
If it bugs you unbearably and it would me, I think I would call the cabinet co. and see if they can put a new face board just on that side, probably wouldn't cost much, since you are a customer already.

The faceframes are glued and screwed together and probably glued to the cabinet carcasse. Hardly worth the time and money.
Glue the piece on, find a stain(Minwax Natural) to match and move on.
Ron

gregzoll 10-24-2010 09:24 AM

A filler strip would have been used in this case to allow the cabinet to not be notched for the counter.

johnnyboy 10-24-2010 09:48 AM

I got all my kraftmaid cabinets from their outlet store and they've got their share of dings and nicks like this (i'm sure i added some getting them home). the wax crayon worked great, they won't look new forever.

I like your method over the filler strip anyhow, looks neater and one less seam to keep clean.

eemichael83 10-26-2010 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gregzoll (Post 522186)
A filler strip would have been used in this case to allow the cabinet to not be notched for the counter.

Incorrect. Either a notch in the cabinet or the counter top would have had to have been cut. Most would probably cut the counter, but I didnt want to do that since an error here would have forced me to remove the sink and replace the counter top. A filler will still be used at the face of the cabinet, but using one between the side of the cabinet and the counter top would have been and looked ridiculous.

gregzoll 10-26-2010 02:41 PM

Re: Need help! Cabinet install gone slightly wrong
 
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Originally Posted by eemichael83

Incorrect. Either a notch in the cabinet or the counter top would have had to have been cut. Most would probably cut the counter, but I didnt want to do that since an error here would have forced me to remove the sink and replace the counter top. A filler will still be used at the face of the cabinet, but using one between the side of the cabinet and the counter top would have been and looked ridiculous.

Have you ever installed cabinets? A filler is used between the cabinets, and when installing the counter, nothing should be notched if it was done correctly.

eemichael83 10-26-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gregzoll (Post 523342)
Have you ever installed cabinets? A filler is used between the cabinets, and when installing the counter, nothing should be notched if it was done correctly.

This counter top already exists... So you are telling me, that you would cut a strip of filler that is 1/4" thick, and curved to match the profile of the counter top... that also wouldnt match the finish of either the cabinet nor the counter top, and place it in the area between the side of the cabinet and the edge of the counter top that is circled in yellow below? And my second option wasn't to notch the counter top, it was to cut it up to the edge of the base cabinet that is already there... as stated before.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1.../Highlight.png

gregzoll 10-26-2010 03:04 PM

Re: Need help! Cabinet install gone slightly wrong
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eemichael83

This counter top already exists... So you are telling me, that you would cut a strip of filler that is 1/4" thick, and curved to match the profile of the counter top... that also wouldnt match the finish of either the cabinet nor the counter top, and place it in the area between the side of the cabinet and the edge of the counter top that is circled in yellow below? And my second option wasn't to notch the counter top, it was to cut it up to the edge of the base cabinet that is already there... as stated before.

You are not getting it, which means that you have never installed cabinets before. I would suggest understanding how the job should have been done, not how the OP wanted to do it, and now they have a sloppy install.

eemichael83 10-26-2010 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gregzoll (Post 523358)
You are not getting it, which means that you have never installed cabinets before. I would suggest understanding how the job should have been done, not how the OP wanted to do it, and now they have a sloppy install.

Thank you for the unnecessarily condescending remark...

So explain it to me because the English words that you have typed out pretty explicitly state that I should make a 1/4" filler for between the edge of the cabinet and the countertop. I dont have to have a background in cabinet installation to know that is a terrible idea... maybe you're the one not getting it. Is english a second language to you? or perhaps your comprehension skills are just low since its clear you can't even decipher that I AM the OP.

Ron6519 10-26-2010 03:37 PM

To avoid the notching and all the associated agnst, all you had to do was order a filler 1/4" panel that would have fitted on the side of the pantry cabinet. It would have run from the countertop to the top of the pantry cabinet. This would have been planned and ordered when the cabinets were ordered. Whoever designed the kitchen was inexperienced and did not detail the job.
Any gaps at the base and wall cabinets would have been filled in with filler strips.
Ron

eemichael83 10-26-2010 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron6519 (Post 523372)
To avoid the notching and all the associated agnst, all you had to do was order a filler 1/4" panel that would have fitted on the side of the pantry cabinet. It would have run from the countertop to the top of the pantry cabinet. This would have been planned and ordered when the cabinets were ordered. Whoever designed the kitchen was inexperienced and did not detail the job.
Any gaps at the base and wall cabinets would have been filled in with filler strips.
Ron

Thank you Ron for an informative post. A filler PANEL makes much more sense than using a filler STRIP. I did order the filler for the gaps at the base and wall cabinet but I was not informed of any other type of filler for this cabinet and its finish by the cabinet supplier when I talked to them. Maybe it just slipped their minds, but that kind of solution would have certainly been easier. It's too late now, but oh well. Aside from the small chipped part, it looks really good. I think once I apply the color matched wax touchup and a small bead of caulk to keep moisture from making its way between cabinets, it will barely be noticeable if even at all.


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