Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Carpentry

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-16-2013, 03:43 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 94
Share |
Default

Nailer/Stapler problem with trim


I have a combination nailer stapler that I recently bought to do all my trim/moulding/doors. I have never used a combination nailer/stapler before and there is an annoying thing that keeps happening.

When I am nailing the door trim back on, it always puts two sloppy holes in the wood even if there is no staple in it due, I guess, to the compressed air.

I have to do my base and my crown next and I can't cover all those extra holes as well or easily since the crown is stained...it looks messy.

Is this a the way nailers/staplers all are or is there a setting I should change on it somehow? Are combination stapler/nailers just inappropriate for this kind of work?


Last edited by Bradeno; 02-16-2013 at 03:51 PM.
Bradeno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2013, 03:47 PM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 25,732
Default

Nailer/Stapler problem with trim


Post the make and model.
You bought a toy that's not made for installing trim.
Brads will never hold trim tight and not even close to being long enough to install trim.
You need a real 15 or 16 gauge trim gun.

joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2013, 03:56 PM   #3
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 94
Default

Nailer/Stapler problem with trim


It is just a cheap menards nailer/stapler. I spent money for more expensive Hitachi miter saws and other tools and figured a nailer was simple enough that expensive would not be necessary.

It is a generic 18 gauge nailer, 120 psi max. I am wondering if all nailer/staplers will leave that second hole.

I didn't realize there was such a thing as 'trim' nails. I thought brad nails were the trim nails.

Last edited by Bradeno; 02-16-2013 at 04:01 PM.
Bradeno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2013, 04:04 PM   #4
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 25,732
Default

Nailer/Stapler problem with trim


There is no combo stapler, nailer that I've ever heard of that will work.
A brad has almost no head on it and the gauge is to small, there just going to pull out.
About all there good for is to tack something together while glue drys.
joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2013, 05:04 PM   #5
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: montana
Posts: 11
Default

Nailer/Stapler problem with trim


Not all Brad mailers leave 2 holes. I have several, and none do. I use a brad nails all the time for trim. 18 gauge is plenty if used properly. I use a couple 2" brads 16" apart, hit the stud on the top nail and the bottom plate with the bottom nail. Holds MDF trim nice and tight. If you're using thicker trim, or have very uneven wall, a larger nail may be necessary.
gogetter is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to gogetter For This Useful Post:
hand drive (02-17-2013), woodworkbykirk (02-16-2013)
Old 02-16-2013, 05:47 PM   #6
journeyman carpenter
 
woodworkbykirk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: nova scotia canada
Posts: 2,651
Default

Nailer/Stapler problem with trim


combo nailers are abslutely horrible period.. but as for 18 gauge not being good enough for casing.. thats nonsense.. i use 18 gauge all the time for trim installs as long as you use enough nails and actually hit something with them they work perfectly fine. 16 gauge is better for hanging doors, setting window jamb extensions.. closet shelving cleats and installkng baseboard as they have more holding power . 15 gauge as well. i use 15 gauge solely for exterior finish work. the nails have a heavier shank that resist seasonal movement of the material
woodworkbykirk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2013, 05:17 PM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 94
Default

Nailer/Stapler problem with trim


I took your advices(s) and borrowed a friend's Bostich nailer; that combo thing is junk. I wonder if Menards will let me return it without a receipt since it is their brand...
Bradeno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2013, 05:49 PM   #8
journeyman carpenter
 
woodworkbykirk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: nova scotia canada
Posts: 2,651
Default

Nailer/Stapler problem with trim


depends on how long ago, if you have a credit card bill or bank account info they may let you.. not for a return but store credit
woodworkbykirk is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to woodworkbykirk For This Useful Post:
oh'mike (02-17-2013)
Old 02-17-2013, 07:47 PM   #9
Roofmaster
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,432
Default

Nailer/Stapler problem with trim


I have a Hitachi 15 Gage angled finish nailer that I like a lot takes up to 8d finish nails. Also a Hitachi 1.5 inch stapler, and a Paslode S350 Framing nailer. I like all of them.

With tools, you simply cant go cheap, all it will do is piss you off in the end.

You need to buy a tool that serves a particular purpose. To do more than one thing something has to give, and its usually the owners patience.
__________________
" A lot of men build things, and a lot of things fall down "

jagans is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to jagans For This Useful Post:
ThatDaveGuy (02-18-2013), woodworkbykirk (02-17-2013)
Old 02-17-2013, 09:11 PM   #10
journeyman carpenter
 
woodworkbykirk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: nova scotia canada
Posts: 2,651
Default

Nailer/Stapler problem with trim


if you do end up stuck with that gun do what i do with tools i no longer use cuz i hate them.. lend them to family or neighbors so they dont get hte good tools to wreck
woodworkbykirk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2013, 09:52 PM   #11
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 25,732
Default

Nailer/Stapler problem with trim


I just bought a 15 gauge Porta Cable today from CPO Tools for $106.00 including shipping to replace one of the three I my old employer stole from me.

Know anyone that needs some empty Pasload, or Porta Cable nail gun boxes?
joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2013, 12:29 PM   #12
journeyman carpenter
 
woodworkbykirk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: nova scotia canada
Posts: 2,651
Default

Nailer/Stapler problem with trim


Quote:
Originally Posted by joecaption View Post
I just bought a 15 gauge Porta Cable today from CPO Tools for $106.00 including shipping to replace one of the three I my old employer stole from me.

Know anyone that needs some empty Pasload, or Porta Cable nail gun boxes?

thats greasy,, as long as they actually stole it and werent someonee whos cheque didnt clear so they did it as a balance.

as for the cases,, you keep your guns in the case?? i toss mine and just stow em all together in a large kunys bag
woodworkbykirk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2013, 01:22 PM   #13
Not so new
 
12penny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lehigh Valley, Pa.
Posts: 932
Default

Nailer/Stapler problem with trim


For me 18 gage nails casing to the jamb and 16 gage x 2 1/2 nails casing to king or jack depending on casing width.

And call me anal...I like the cases. Easy to stow in the van and it keeps everything together.
12penny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2013, 03:12 PM   #14
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 190
Default

Nailer/Stapler problem with trim


Those combo nailer/staples are horrible when you want to use the brad nails part of it. Got to remember that the hammer is made to fire staples so when you want to fire a brad nail you are still going to have the wide "indent" as if a staple was actually fired. But you can use 18 gauge to nail up trim without a problem. Like others have said as long as the brad is long enough and you hit a stud, youll be good to go.

Jason34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Opinion on closet door trim dmhoyt Carpentry 4 06-12-2012 06:18 PM
Should I paint my original trim white? somecallmemike Interior Decorating 23 05-11-2012 11:22 AM
Best way to do trim? ligyron Carpentry 4 02-17-2012 09:23 PM
Problem painting Lowe's pre-finished trim Lazy_Jake Painting 3 11-12-2010 06:32 PM
Stymied by window leakage problem. Matth3w General DIY Discussions 5 06-11-2008 06:26 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.