Kite winder for stairs

ianc435

Any body know a good place to purchase oak kite winders 3 piece for stairs. I might might make them

Michael Thomas

Are you in the UK? I've never heard the term "kite winder" used in the US.

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ianc435

Nope in the us. Kite winder came up on google. Its refering to the one that looks a kite. The other two look like pies. Didn't know if you had any good recomndations?

The winders are for the bottom three steps in a cape house.

BigJim

I had to Google also Michael as I have never heard of a kite tread either but I see why they call it that.

You will not find a place that sells a kite tread as there are just too many variables that will make that tread in different dimensions. You will have to buy a blank and cut it yourself.

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ianc435

Hey i found a place that makes them all three for 160 bucks. With dimesion custom cuts asuming 90 degrees on pies

Keith Mathewson

How are you planning on attaching the tread to the rough framing?

ianc435

Glue and nail. These are exsisting pine treads that look like crap and the soft ring has worn away. Bought 11 1/2 by 36 at depot fot 21 dollars a piece. Think i am going to get two big one and spline and poxy them together and then cut the winder out. What do you think. What is a good brand of poxy to use. For the spline.

Keith Mathewson

You don't need a spline or epoxy, just edge glue them together with yellow glue. What you need to be concerned with is seasonal wood movement. If you use construction adhesive and nails on a large winder tread it will split over time.

ianc435

How do you suggest fastening them. What if i nail them at an angle

Keith Mathewson

Here is what I do.

Put the winder tread down before the next riser. Then place the riser on top of the winder tread.

Since squeaks are usually from wood moving up and down on a nail, I'd put adhesive at the point of the walk line. I.E. the place where you would normally step when using the stair. Not too many nails everywhere else. This always the tread to move both in front of the adhesive and behind it.

But to be honest, I always house my treads and avoid this problem.

ianc435

Hey thanks a lot. I guess i am going to replace the risers on those steps.

I don't mind sqeaks. They let you know someone is there. It adds character to the house,

What do you mean by house , i am unfamilular with that term. Do you mean leave them in the house before in stalling them?

Keith Mathewson

Housed stairs are where the stringer is mortised to receive the treads and risers. They are then wedged from below. These represent the highest quality of stair work and assure a squeak free stair. They are however outside the range of a DIY...

ianc435

I can do any thing except slam dunk

Keith Mathewson

In that case here is a link to some vids I did on housed stringers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrFdO-y1YVM. These are geared toward stairbuilders. It is a brief overview and does not cover how to layout winders.

ianc435

I will check it out and you a very helpful. Thanks a lot.