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Old 08-19-2010, 10:40 AM   #1
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The local hardware store doesn't carry 1 1/2" joist hanger nails. Can 1 1/2" masonry nails be used instead for a LUS24 hanger?

Corrosion resistance isn't a problem since it's in a garage.

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Hardware stores generally do not carry much in the line of building supplies. Most joist hangers along with the nails are sold at local Lumber Yards or Building Suppliers.

In your case, if your local yard is not convenient, I would not be afraid to use Masonry Nails.

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No. That LUS hanger requires 10d----3" x 0.148" diameter nails. You cannot substitute 1-1/2" or concrete nails with a smaller head, even for a load reduction. http://www.strongtie.com/products/co...ace_ss-df1.asp

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No. That LUS hanger requires 10d----3" x 0.148" diameter nails. You cannot substitute 1-1/2" or concrete nails with a smaller head, even for a load reduction. http://www.strongtie.com/products/co...ace_ss-df1.asp

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It will be attached to a 2x4 on the wall, so 1-1/2" 10d are fine according the thier website (with load reduction) http://www.strongtie.com/products/co...rs/LUS-HUS.asp

"With 2x carrying members, use 10d x 1 1/2" nails into the header and 10d commons into the joist, reduce the load to 0.64 of the table value. "

The masonry nails they have at the store have as large of a head as a 10d.
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These are the type of masonry nail they have:



Can these used used in place of 1-1/2" 10d's for a garage shelf??
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These are the type of masonry nail they have:



Can these used used in place of 1-1/2" 10d's for a garage shelf??
Will the masonary nail with that type of shaft hold as well as the designated fastener?
Might it not pull out more easily?
Finding the correct nail isn't a Herculean task, why bother with this?
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Will the masonary nail with that type of shaft hold as well as the designated fastener?
Might it not pull out more easily?
Finding the correct nail isn't a Herculean task, why bother with this?
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You're right. I was just being lazy because I didn't want to drive 30 minutes for a 1lb box of joist hanger nails. Oh well...
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You're right. I was just being lazy because I didn't want to drive 30 minutes for a 1lb box of joist hanger nails. Oh well...
What are you trying to pull here?

It's funny I've done it too. You know you should probably just do it the right way but maybe someone has done it that one way and you're hoping they say " oh yeah, no problem"...instead you get the answer you may have known all along.
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What are you trying to pull here?

It's funny I've done it too. You know you should probably just do it the right way but maybe someone has done it that one way and you're hoping they say " oh yeah, no problem"...instead you get the answer you may have known all along.
Yeah, you're right. It just sucks cause it costed more money to drive to the lumber yard than the damn nails themselves.
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You are sharp! I'm glad you caught that. "With 2x carrying members, use 10d x
  • 1 1/2" nails into the header and 10d commons into the joist, reduce the load to 0.64 of the table value."

I was thinking the joist nails could not be substituted because of the needed length for the shear required, not the header nails..... In my seismic zone, the truss companies require 2x4 shear hangers on the hip jacks, with real 16d driven through and bent over for shear on the single member 2x hip master. Forget the doorways or under a table, stand under a hip set!
Thanks for pointing that out.

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Simpson has recently come out with these screws that can be used on joist hangers. They can be more convenient to install and hold down better, though pricey.

http://www.strongtie.com/products/co...-loadrated.asp
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..... They can be more convenient to install and hold down better, though pricey......
Mike Holmes may feel vindicated as he has been using screws in hangers for years although he won't like it that drywall screws are NOT approved. I saw one episode where one of his crew used a drywall screw to connect a steel stud to a steel track .
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