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Old 09-12-2011, 08:37 PM   #16
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tell them they need a permit and a stamped drawing, blah blah blah.
Good day.
Another Pineapple in the bunch here!! People are willing to help when the person asking the question wants to do the right thing. Making openings bigger and installing new headers require permits and inspections. Some people just don't want to do that and just ask how they can do something illegal. Sounds like you're right in there with the rest of the Humps.
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Why isn't it necessary to get permits and inspections? You are supposed when you do this type of work.
Tennessee single-family dwellings don't require it, or I have been misinformed...
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:51 PM   #18
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Everything needs a permit in NJ and I think the response is rather typical of the responder.

In order to do what you are proposing there will be a bunch of work on both the inside and out to make it right, wouldn't it be better just to get windows that fit the existing opennings.

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Everything needs a permit in NJ and I think the response is rather typical of the responder.

In order to do what you are proposing there will be a bunch of work on both the inside and out to make it right, wouldn't it be better just to get windows that fit the existing opennings.

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Honestly I had never considered needing a permit for my own house until he said something. Building code doesn't apply to single-home dwellings, but if I need one I have no quarrels about getting one. If so, wish I had known before I did all my siding, 4 windows, and a set of french doors :S

Basically I came across a killer deal on windows, and I took the seller's word on measurements(measured these two wrong). I can't get one to match the other 3 I installed in the same room that will fit in the opening, or I just haven't been able to find it yet. Believe me I'm still looking...I know this is a ridiculous job.
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For grins and giggles, what do I look for in the phone book to get said permit if required?
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:45 PM   #21
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For grins and giggles, what do I look for in the phone book to get said permit if required?
Department of Building Standards.
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A ".(doubleE = EE...for those smartypants)", asking where to look for permitting info?

Truthfully, no one but me is seeing a stage full of humor in all this?
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A ".(doubleE = EE...for those smartypants)", asking where to look for permitting info?

Truthfully, no one but me is seeing a stage full of humor in all this?
Coming from the original troll...no surprise.

You obviously have no idea of the breadth of different roles an EE can work, especially those NOT involved in contracting. I don't do work involving permits obviously...or perhaps not so obviously. I'm not an electrician, nor am I a construction worker, silly goose Normally I'm not so...irritable...but when someone asks for help and gets snickers and insults, it's just plain...irritating...

GOOD NEWS...The guy I bought my original 3 from just got another that will fit inside this opening...thanks for the help for those willing to provide it. For the others, have fun trolling
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I guess since I won't be back, might as well poke fun at the troll...
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Sig: Minds of moderate caliber ordinarily condemn everything which is beyond them
Judging by your public display of..."affection"...toward me, are you saying your mind is of "moderate caliber" and I am "beyond" you? Your signature is ironically accusing you...
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Personally I think there are things that are great for someone who wants to DIY and work on their own house, as well there are times when you need to call someone who knows what they are doing, as it is a lot more than cosmetic you are dealing with.

You need to have someone who understands how to frame and weather proof openings properly, as well who is knowledgeable concerning local codes and permit applications.

I have no idea how your area works, however here if unpermitted work is done ( and you would need a permit for that here, definitely) then you may run into a serious problem down the road trying to sell your property.

Honestly if you are looking on the net of the very basics of how to reframe a RO for a window, get someone who knows.
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:35 AM   #26
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doubleE, the first thing I would do is open up the wall to see how it's framed. What size windows are you installing and what is the total span?
Edit: if you can post a picture of both inside and outside, I can give you an idea of what's involved.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:57 AM   #27
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Although I think that was a jab at me possibly getting myself hurt...I chuckled
Now you are just being stupid.

A Sawzall is a well known tool used in remodelling that a person can't hardly do without. A Sawzall in your case could have been used to remove existing structural members without wrecking surrounding assemblies. A Sawzall in your case could have been used to cut existing fasteners so as not to disturb too much of the exterior cladding in the process. If you get hurt using a Sawzall that's your problem. It was a legitimate question.

You guys come here asking stupid questions and trying to fit a battleship in a baby food jar and when you draw a little comedic dialogue you get pissed.

You have received good solid answers and you aren't happy with that. Consider the price you paid for the solid information you received.

Any time structural changes are made to a building a permit is generally required. Permits aren't something new and if you say you have never heard of such a requirement then I would say you are a liar.

Joe is concerned about permits and doing things correctly and he has become our Permit Compliance Officer around here. You can't be expected to know that but to try to stifle the locals from having a little fun (at your expense) is childish. You got what you paid for, there are other websites offering advice, check them out.
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You guys come here asking stupid questions and trying to fit a battleship in a baby food jar and when you draw a little comedic dialogue you get pissed.
I don’t get the stupid question part. Modifying an opening for a window or door is pretty basic stuff, happens every day.

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Good solid answers? Other than permit and post 26 and part of 25 I’m not seeing it.
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All contain solid information considering this is a free DIY Q&A website.
I’ll give you 4. 9 don’t count because who would listen after 6. The others I mentioned.
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