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Old 09-12-2011, 06:11 PM   #1
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Hi all,
I've become a do-it-yourselfer recently. I have replaced several windows in my house, but now I've run into an issue. I have 2 side-by-side windows currently with a single stud between them. I need to replace both windows with new windows that are about 8" wider. So, I figure I can leave the center stud, and expand out in either direction by the amount needed, but what's the best/safest way to do that?

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OK, I will state the obvious.

You can't just make window holes bigger. Structural issues are certainly present. Beyond the sheathing and wall covering lies a header. This header supports the loads above. If you remove framing next to the window, this support will be compromised. This could lead to serious injury or death.
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So, 6-8-10,

What you are saying is "You can not put 10 pounds of crap in a 5 pound sack. Is that correct?
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So, 6-8-10,

What you are saying is "You can not put 10 pounds of crap in a 5 pound sack. Is that correct?
Well yes!

I just being nice about it. Not sure why, I am usually right there with you guys to laugh it up and respond sarcastically.

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Geez, I should have just said "howz can I make these winder holes bigger, dahurr"...some people *sigh*

I understand structural loads, etc.(doubleE = EE...for those smartypants), hence the question regarding the "best/safest way to do this". I really just need to know the best way to replace a header from someone with experience...the load on it can't be that much considering at the highest point it's about 24in from the almost-flat roof.


I took a look behind the trim, and actually the side-by-side windows appear to be in a single frame, meaning they have a single header above. As it stands now, I could support half the existing header and basically build another frame where one window previously existed (in the end I would have two separated frames). kwikfishron, if you have some insight, I would be much appreciative...

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What I do have is plenty of experience. A load can not be determined just by looking up and assuming. There are safe approved ways to do what you are attempting. If you would post a few pics we may be able to help you. Or you can continue to insult us and go for it alone. I would opt for the pics.
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Geez, I should have just said "howz can I make these winder holes bigger, dahurr"...some people *sigh*

I understand structural loads, etc.(doubleE = EE...for those smartypants), hence the question regarding the "best/safest way to do this". I really just need to know the best way to replace a header from someone with experience...the load on it can't be that much considering at the highest point it's about 24in from the almost-flat roof.


I took a look behind the trim, and actually the side-by-side windows appear to be in a single frame, meaning they have a single header above. As it stands now, I could support half the existing header and basically build another frame where one window previously existed (in the end I would have two separated frames). kwikfishron, if you have some insight, I would be much appreciative...

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Are you planing on getting permits and inspections for this?
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OH-oh! SCATTER...It's the window police.
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Are you planing on getting permits and inspections for this?
Not necessary

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What I do have is plenty of experience. A load can not be determined just by looking up and assuming. There are safe approved ways to do what you are attempting. If you would post a few pics we may be able to help you. Or you can continue to insult us and go for it alone. I would opt for the pics.
All I ever wanted was a little help

I will get some pics up. I can get interior for the time being; too dark for exterior

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Although I think that was a jab at me possibly getting myself hurt...I chuckled
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Where’s the humor? There is a useful answer to the question.
I applaude u mr kwik for sticking to premise of this forum. I am a newbe and don't know alot about somethings but I would think most people come here to learn and run any answers they receive through and hash it out on paper and their mind. I would like to think that there are a few people willing to help and not stroke their fur at a strangers expense. Tell them what your superior mind knows, tell them they need a permit and a stamped drawing, blah blah blah.
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Not necessary

Why isn't it necessary to get permits and inspections? You are supposed when you do this type of work.

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