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Old 11-27-2010, 01:41 PM   #1
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Installing trim, ceiling bowed


Hi,

In the middle of fixing up the kitchen..........

I'd like to put molding up at the wall/ceiling. On one wall, the ceiling is bowed
for about 2 ft. such that the molding will not mount flush. I think the 2ft run
bows about 1/2" relative to the rest of the wall/ceiling. Any suggestions
appreciated...

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Old 11-27-2010, 05:28 PM   #2
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Old 11-27-2010, 06:28 PM   #3
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Sometimes you can bed the ceiling mold in, into the corners then make a mark under the molding at each corner and pop a line across the wall. Keep the bottom of the molding on the popped line. You will have to roll it out at the top were the ceiling is bowed down but most times it is doable. It will be hard to tell the ceiling has a bow in it with the molding installed like that. You will have to caulk to make the gaps disappear.
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Old 11-27-2010, 08:07 PM   #4
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Here's a pic ..... the blue tape is where the ceiling bow is (about 16 inch run)
With the molding level you can see at the end of the section that the top
of the molding is about 1/2" from being flush with the ceiling....
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Old 11-27-2010, 08:16 PM   #5
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That looks like a prime candidate for some drywall mud-----

I think you have an old repair or a raised ceiling member---You should be able to 'float' that area out with drywall mud----Mike---
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scribe the moulding to the ceiling
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Old 11-28-2010, 06:46 AM   #7
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Don't understand the word "scribe". Could you please elaborate?

Thanks....
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scribing, in this case, means temporarily tacking the moulding in place so that the furthest left and right side of the bump have equal spacing between the ceiling and the top edge of the moulding,then running a compass, set at the same depth as that gap, along the ceiling so that it leaves a pencil mark on the moulding. Then you need to saw/plane/sand the moulding down to that line. If there is so much to take off that you have to saw beyond the first horizontal line on the moulding profile, just scribe to that line, remove the waste material, and use a lot of caulking.
I know it sounds complicated, but try it with a scrap piece first. It's not easy to describe either!
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Thanks to all.... Got the scribing down .... I think..
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I do most of my scribing with an angle grinder and 60 grit sand paper---

Youtube has a video by Brian Campbell that shows the process---amazingly accurate and fast--dusty,yes.
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I do most of my scribing with an angle grinder and 60 grit sand paper---

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Overkill on a piece of finish trim
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Don't know if can work same way but years ago when vertical barnboard with chair rail on top was in style, I had a problem with the wall itself being uneven, curving slightly in and out. After eyeing the wall carefully from a doorway, I purchased some not so straight pieces of chair rail. I'm sure the folks at the lumber store were happy to get rid of these pieces and thought I had no clue but it did work out ok and was one of those things that guests noticed only when it was pointed out.
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The trim is actually a patterned chair rail. Yesterday I tacked a piece into one of the corners and was able to force the top even with the ceiling. I "think' it just might work. But, the 45 degree corner on the opposite end might be a little tricky as the end will no longer be at a 90 to the corner. Guess I'll find out when I get there (chaulk is a such great thing!) ....

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