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06-10-2008, 12:51 AM
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Installing Pine Panelling on Ceiling
I am planning to install pine panelling on an existing ceiling that is drywalled. Can I install the pine boards directly over the 1/2" drywall or do I have to rip out the drywall. I am planning to use 18 gauge 2" brads to nail through the groove. Will these nails suffice ?
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06-10-2008, 09:45 AM
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2" nails should work fine. I don't see any problem with installing the T&G pine over drywall, provided you locate all your ceiling joists, which MUST serve as nailers. Simply nailing into the sheetrock will not last very long at all. Your boards need to run perpindicular to the ceiling joists or floor joists above.
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10-11-2008, 04:36 PM
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Pine Panelling Ceilingq
There are three sprinkler heads that will have to be lowered to accomodate the 3/4" pine boards. I am not familiar with how sprinkler heads are plumbed. What is involved for lowering them ?
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10-11-2008, 05:21 PM
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Drywall contractor
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You have to shut down and drain the system. Unscrew the head and the nipple from the tee. Install new nipple that is 3/4" longer and reinstall sprinkler head. Be sure to use pipe dope on the joints. I agree that 2" nails should be sufficient length, but I personally would use an actual trim nail rather than brad. (15 ga.) Also you want to nail through the tongue, not the groove. And allow a bit of a gap around the perimeter to allow for expansion. As KC said, be sure to hit the joists with your nails!
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10-11-2008, 07:55 PM
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Custom Cabinet Maker
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I dont think 2" will make it. Remember you are TOE NAILING thru the tongue,
3/4 plus 1/2 add in the angled nailing 2 1/2" #8's 6's wont make it.
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10-11-2008, 11:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skymaster
I dont think 2" will make it. Remember you are TOE NAILING thru the tongue,
3/4 plus 1/2 add in the angled nailing 2 1/2" #8's 6's wont make it.
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I believe that Gearbox is using paneling, rather than 3/4" t/g pine.
I would suggest that he would apply construction adhesive on the back of the panel and then nail up.
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10-11-2008, 11:17 PM
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Custom Cabinet Maker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gearbox Paul
There are three sprinkler heads that will have to be lowered to accomodate the 3/4" pine boards. I am not familiar with how sprinkler heads are plumbed. What is involved for lowering them ?
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Wilde; this is why I said it :}:}:} I like the adhesive idea also 
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10-12-2008, 12:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skymaster
Wilde; this is why I said it :}:}:} I like the adhesive idea also |
Good point! I missed that. Now I am confused! 
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10-12-2008, 01:16 PM
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Custom Cabinet Maker
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Wilde: Welcome Neighbor!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought I lived alone in that state LOL LOL. But seriously what has you confused? 
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10-12-2008, 01:39 PM
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Drywall contractor
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The tongue isn't at the full 3/4" point of the board so you're only having to penetrate 3/8" - 1/2" of the siding. Add the 1/2" drywall and the angle of the nail.....I'd guess you end up with 3/4" penetration of the joist?? Probably good enough (especially with adhesive which I'm glad was mentioned, since I didn't), but 2-1/2" would be better. Most brad nailers I've seen are limited to 2" nails, which is why the question was asked to begin with. If you end up going with brad nails, I would definitely use adhesive. I think you'll have problems driving the brads without them bending, being such a light gauge. I replaced a bunch of this product a couple of years ago and some of it is pretty dense. Used 15 ga. x 2" trim nails.
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10-13-2008, 12:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skymaster
Wilde: Welcome Neighbor!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought I lived alone in that state LOL LOL. But seriously what has you confused? |
Well, I assumed from the original post that 1/4" panelling [4'X8'] was to be used.
Then when the sprinkler problem turned up, we were talkin' 3/4 t/g boards.
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