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Ferrino 05-05-2013 01:49 PM

Ideas for Building a Sliding Safety Gate
 
I need to find a child safety/security gate to stop our 15 month-old from entering our kitchen area, which has no door. Unfortunately we cannot use the traditional staircase style of gate that opens on a hinge, as it would hit a nearby pillar. What we ideally need is a gate that slides on some sort of track.

I haven't been able to find such a gate online or in stores, so I figured I might try to make one myself, using pocket-hole joinery. What I am not sure about is how to make the sliding mechanism - I was imagining some sort of sliding track like you have on bath-tub shower doors, where the top and bottom of the gate slides into a track with bearings when it is open. Any tips on where to find such parts or examples I can learn from?

Many thanks!

jaydevries 05-05-2013 04:59 PM

picture might help and a length
i am thanking of a sliding closet door track or pocket door track

GBrackins 05-05-2013 06:35 PM

what jaydevries said ^ length and photos

oh'mike 05-05-2013 07:08 PM

Size needed---C-channel on the floor along the wall---a roller or hook at the top--then a pocket on the other side of the door---flat panel or a flat gate come to mind---depending on the flooring,double faced sticky tape might be all that is needed for holding the c-channel to the floor.

JamesRW 05-05-2013 07:49 PM

Not exactly, but might help -
 
I have saved this picture with the hopes of modifying the idea for our house:

http://www.houzz.com/photos/679460/O...itchen-houston

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Ferrino 05-05-2013 11:13 PM

JamesRW: that's exactly the type of thing I had in mind - a gate with a couple of wheels on the bottom that roll along the floor. Except I would not be able to hide the gate when it's opened, unless I build some sort of enclosure.

Here are a couple of pics with dimensions. On the left-hand side (where the gate will retract and sit when the entryway is open) is the end of a wooden kitchen cabinet. The floor is wooden on the left, but the entry is ceramic floor tile. On the right-hand side where the gate will need to latch is drywall.

Thanks very much for any suggestions you have. Thinking about it, it would probably look a lot neater if I did build an enclosure for when the gate is opened, so as to hide the channel and the sliding mechanism. I guess I could simply extend the end of the kitchen cabinets and make a little box for it to recess into?

http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/...psea2c2211.png
http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/...ps43fce6a5.png

mae-ling 05-06-2013 12:51 AM

Why not a regular gate swinging into the hall?

Ferrino 05-06-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mae-ling (Post 1173533)
Why not a regular gate swinging into the hall?

Because the gate would constantly need to be moved (it would block a walkway to the left when open and it would obviously block the kitchen when closed). I want it to be completely out of the way when open as it will only be used when cooking etc.

GBrackins 05-06-2013 11:10 AM

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how 'bout an accordian style gate like in this photo ..... it's hinged on one side and pulls across to the other. I had one on my deck that only required a eye hook to connect it in the closed position

hammerlane 05-06-2013 11:14 AM

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What aisle are you attempting to block passage to?

Ferrino 05-06-2013 11:44 AM

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What aisle are you attempting to block passage to?
The one marked in red - i.e. to the kitchen.
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how 'bout an accordian style gate like in this photo
Thanks for the suggestion but my son would tear that down very easily. I need something more robust that will lock/latch against the other side.

mae-ling 05-06-2013 10:32 PM

nothing sliding coming to my mind.

How about something hinged to the cabinet that could be up against the cabinet then swing right out?

Only sliding thing I can think of would be some sort of full extension drawer slides. Maybe something like this http://www.tchweb.com/tchstore/produ...wer-Slide.html mounted to the wall.
if you don't want the hardware visible when you slide it to close off the area (open the drawer so to speak) you would have to make it 6' so the 3' extra covers the slides mounted to the wall.

mae-ling 05-06-2013 10:36 PM

Just wait if you made a cover for the sliding door, kinda a pocket then it could cover the slides and the door when slide on the wall then as the door was slide to cover the walkway the cover would cover the slidees, By job I think that might work.

Bumpr1080 05-06-2013 11:59 PM

Do you have a "the container store" near you? They're a chain in Denver that sells all manner of tracked items for under cabinets, closets etc ... For sure you can buy the hardware from them.

Also- if you're thinking about part of a shower door, why not buy an old shower door from a habitat for humanity ReStore or other kind of recycle home warehouse/ Craigslist?

Ferrino 05-07-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mae-ling (Post 1174120)
How about something hinged to the cabinet that could be up against the cabinet then swing right out?

A hinge will not work because, due to the width of the required door to block the entrance, it would hit a pillar before it can sit move a full 180 degrees, to be against the cabinet.

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Originally Posted by mae-ling (Post 1174120)
Only sliding thing I can think of would be some sort of full extension drawer slides. Maybe something like this http://www.tchweb.com/tchstore/produ...wer-Slide.html mounted to the wall.

I like that idea! And 36" slides would be a perfect size. Would you just put one slide along the top and one along the bottom, and then have a couple of wheels for it to roll along the floor and take the weight? Or would you not need wheels at all? I'm guessing the "door" will be pretty heavy.

What do you think the best type of "latch" is to place on the opposite wall and connect to the door? Needs to be childproof!

Thanks all!


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