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Old 11-24-2008, 09:03 PM   #16
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awesome man.
would be good to learn how to lay out the rafters manually, so i'll have to figure it out. a bit fuzzy based on your description alone (which was very good).

what is "ban board?"

so essentially just the way they built my garage in the early 1900s? just let the ridge and sheathing extend out a foot, and insert a floating rafter?

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ban board would be the 2x sub-facia board that nails to the ends of the rafters opposite of the ridge.

Correct, I put my "barge" rafter on first and then sheath but I have seen it done with the sheathing on first, installing the barge from underneath.
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ban board would be the 2x sub-facia board that nails to the ends of the rafters opposite of the ridge.

Correct, I put my "barge" rafter on first and then sheath but I have seen it done with the sheathing on first, installing the barge from underneath.

thanks. so, the ban board nails onto the rafter tails, then a 1X fascia board on top of that? why the double boards? why can't you just nail the 1X right to the tails?

well, i guess that wouldn't provide squat for holding up the barge rafter, eh?

by the way, checked out your site - looks like quality work, man.
couldn't get the slideshow to work, but all that i saw looked nice.
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:16 PM   #19
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how deeply do you usually a notch a bird's mouth?
how do you take this notch into account when determining roof pitch and length of rafter?

thanks man. i realize these are a lot of questions t hat aren't easily answered by text.

will have to just get out and learn.

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Not only will the ban board hold up the barge better but when installing soffit it acts a a nailer.

When cutting a birds mouth in a 2x6 rafter I usually leave a 4 3/4" stand. This means that measuring down your (6/12 for example?) plumb mark you will have 4 3/4 left in the board.

The birds mouth has no effect on rafter length or pitch.

All measurements are done from the top or crown side of the rafter and whatever is notched on their bottoms does not alter anything.

Think of the whole roof assembly as moving up rather than any pitch changes and such occurring.

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