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Old 07-26-2008, 12:41 AM   #1
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How do I install trim around stair treads?


I replaced a stairway with new oak treads and risers. The stairs butt up to a wall on both sides, leading to the basement. With this project I am also replacing the drywall on these walls.

I have been cutting the drywall to fit "around" the stairs which also have a one inch bull nose over hang. Due to cutting out the drywall it is not the best fit where it runs along the tread, around the bull nose and down the riser.

How can I trim out around the treads and risers to cover the *rough* cut drywall edges so everything looks neat and professional. Anyone have any ideas, which trim to use and what cuts are necessary?

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You actually should have installed 1x stock skirt boards on each side, and then you would have installed the treads and risers after, butting them to the skirt boards. What about removing your treads and risers and doing it??

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Your absolutely right, I should have done that now that I'm at where I'm at. In my old home I refinished a set of stairs and they were built with the treads inside the skirt board (pre-fab stairs). So I guess I had that in mind while doing this project. I actually tired notching out 1X to put around the treads but it wasn't working out for me, so I am currently notching the drywall. I'm using a jigsaw to cut the drywall to keep the cuts as neat as possible but I'm still getting some gaps bigger than I would like. I figured if I could get the drywall fairly tight to the stairs I could run a nice bead of caulk and be done.

The treads are nailed and glued down already so I'm stuck. BTW, those are a very nice set of stairs.
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Since removal of the treads isn't an option, let's look at other ideas. Are you staining, painting, or carpeting the treads?

Perhaps you could use some sort of small moulding at the transition between the wall and the stairs?

Or, since your rock is fairly tight to your treads, you could try to bridge that gap with caulk. If you're staining the treads, you could use masking tape to keep the caulk in a very straight line so it won't look too out of place on the tread.

Can you post a picture of what you're dealing with?
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Since removal of the treads isn't an option, let's look at other ideas. Are you staining, painting, or carpeting the treads?

Perhaps you could use some sort of small moulding at the transition between the wall and the stairs?

Or, since your rock is fairly tight to your treads, you could try to bridge that gap with caulk. If you're staining the treads, you could use masking tape to keep the caulk in a very straight line so it won't look too out of place on the tread.

Can you post a picture of what you're dealing with?
The treads and risers are already stained and sealed. I ordered them from a cabinet shop this way. I initially was going to bridge the gap w/ caulk but as I go the gaps vary. Right now I'm having the most trouble keeping the gaps tight to the bull nose. I'm on board with a small molding but I don't how to get around the bull nose to cover the gap. I will post a picture.

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Here are a few pics :

I would also like to add that each riser and bull nose vary slightly. The stair stringers were cut *on the job* when the house was built and they did a poor job keeping everything exact. They are close but that is why my gaps vary. These stairs were not pre fab stairs. I find I have to trim the drywall here and there as I go to make it fit.








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Caulking is your friend.
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Larger spaces, you are just going to have to tape and coat.

BTW - The stairs look great!
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I agree, you'll need to tape the larger gaps and feather out the tape several inches with drywall mud to hide it. The smaller gaps will have to be caulked at the bullnoses. You could add trim to the treads and risers, but it will look like an afterthought.

Blow the dust out of the gaps. Then use masking tape about 1/8" off the wall on each stair tread and riser. This will provide straight clean lines for the caulk so it doesn't look like a mess. Remove the tape immediately after applying the caulk. You can re-tape to paint later if needed.

I'd also suggest inserting foam backer rod into the joints before caulking.
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I agree, you'll need to tape the larger gaps and feather out the tape several inches with drywall mud to hide it.

I'd also suggest inserting foam backer rod into the joints before caulking.
Do you mean something similar to foam weather stripping? Thats the only thing I can think of that would compress enough to get into the gaps.

I'm still up for any ideas for trim.... such as which type would look best.
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Backer rod is like weatherstripping. It is essentially flexible foam dowel rod of various diameter sold in rolls, usually with the caulking.
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Backer rod is like weatherstripping. It is essentially flexible foam dowel rod of various diameter sold in rolls, usually with the caulking.
I believe HD carries it with their concrete/masonry products.
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Although it wouldn't conceal the nosing, you could cover the treads and the risers with some base cap. Here's base cap...It is the top piece on top of the 1x base in the pictures.

In the 2nd picture, I mitered the end of it at 45* and returned it to the wall with a tiny mitered piece. Jeez, I need to fill the void in the wall right there.
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Your guy's advice is well appreciated. I put up more drywall today. It is hard to keep the gaps tight. Each stair tends to vary a little which means I have to go back and trim a little here, trim a little there. By that time the bull nose gaps get larger.

I don't trust myself in finishing the drywall good enough where it won't be noticed. Maybe by the time I get to my last step I will be though
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If you have a router table i see no reason why you could not make your own trim to fit the bull nose. Use 1/4 oak flat stock of appropriate width. Use a round over bit for one edge and a 3/4 spiral for the bull nose. The thickness of the tread will determine your spiral size.
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